From north at znet.com Sun Jan 2 10:57:03 2000 From: north at znet.com (Dave North) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:04 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Re: Gift from Andrah Foundation Message-ID: <200001021855.KAA11256@sj.znet.com> >> The Andrah Foundation has donated $550 to SJAA for support of >> education and public awareness of astronomy. Since nearly all of >> our programs are educational, the direction will be easy to >> follow. >> >> Thank you to SJAA member Paul and Ann Summers, who are the >> local representatives of the Foundation.. How amazing! How wonderful! How very christmas! Thanks for the note, Jim. What is the Andrah Foundation...? ...Dave North -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@astronomy.san-jose.ca.us Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From akkana at netscape.com Sun Jan 2 11:29:50 2000 From: akkana at netscape.com (Akkana) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:04 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Dec meeting? References: Message-ID: <386FA72E.A55FA3C9@netscape.com> Bill Arnett wrote: > > Did the december board meeting happen? Minutes? It happened. I took the minutes, but have been in LA until last night, so I haven't had time to type them in yet. I'll try to do that in the next few days. ...Akkana -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@astronomy.san-jose.ca.us Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mojo at whiteoaks.com Sun Jan 2 14:19:34 2000 From: mojo at whiteoaks.com (Morris Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:04 2006 Subject: [BOARD] playing with logo ideas Message-ID: I've been playing with some simple logo ideas for SJAA. I have one suggestion that I'm considering: http://notrump.whiteoaks.com/~mojo/sjaa-logo1.gif http://notrump.whiteoaks.com/~mojo/sjaa-logo2.gif See what you think. Mojo -- Morris Jones <*> Campbell, CA mojo@whiteoaks.com http://www.whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@astronomy.san-jose.ca.us Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jvn at sjpc.org Sun Jan 2 16:09:13 2000 From: jvn at sjpc.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:04 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Gift from Andrah Foundation References: <200001021855.KAA11256@sj.znet.com> Message-ID: <386FE8A9.D33@sjpc.org> > >> The Andrah Foundation has donated $550 to SJAA > >> Thank you to SJAA member Paul and Ann Summers, who are the > >> local representatives of the Foundation.. > > How amazing! How wonderful! > How very christmas! Thanks for the note, Jim. What is the Andrah > Foundation...? I tried Yahoo and Altavista, and found nothing relevant. We'll need to ask Paul. -- Jim Van Nuland, sent from PPP/Netscape. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@astronomy.san-jose.ca.us Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mojo at whiteoaks.com Sun Jan 2 16:54:22 2000 From: mojo at whiteoaks.com (Morris Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:04 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Gift from Andrah Foundation In-Reply-To: <386FE8A9.D33@sjpc.org> Message-ID: On Sun, 2 Jan 2000, Jim Van Nuland wrote: > Jim Van Nuland, sent from PPP/Netscape. ^^^^^^^^^^^^ I'm not sure if you're moving up in the world or not. :) Mojo -- Morris Jones <*> Campbell, CA mojo@whiteoaks.com http://www.whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@astronomy.san-jose.ca.us Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From SJAA at IndigoSkies.com Sun Jan 2 19:56:33 2000 From: SJAA at IndigoSkies.com (Mark Taylor, Treasurer) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:04 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Re: Gift from Andrah Foundation In-Reply-To: References: <386D9303.5AEF@sjpc.org> Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20000102195047.0098f6a0@NO.RECEIVE> >On Fri, 31 Dec 1999, Jim Van Nuland wrote: > > The Andrah Foundation has donated $550 to SJAA for support of > > education and public awareness of astronomy... Apparently this is not the first time... While doing some year-end processing, I just happened to spot a memo field showing that a deposit in 1/99 included a donation of $250 from them. We should definitely thank them! M -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@astronomy.san-jose.ca.us Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From SJAA at IndigoSkies.com Sun Jan 2 20:21:18 2000 From: SJAA at IndigoSkies.com (Mark Taylor, Treasurer) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:04 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Re: Gift from Andrah Foundation In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20000102195047.0098f6a0@NO.RECEIVE> References: <386D9303.5AEF@sjpc.org> Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20000102201808.00a958c0@NO.RECEIVE> >Andrah Foundation Hey, I just found this, too... M -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@astronomy.san-jose.ca.us Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From SJAA at IndigoSkies.com Mon Jan 3 02:10:47 2000 From: SJAA at IndigoSkies.com (Mark Taylor, Treasurer) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:04 2006 Subject: [BOARD] EOY financials PLUS some Questions Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20000103003130.009a8730@NO.RECEIVE> Fellow Boardies, Attached is a report of our year-end numbers; some of the dollars will likely need to be moved between funds once we iron out a few things (but no changes to the totals, though). Please read on... Our checking account had a gain of almost $1900 this year! I think I can explain how we managed to do that in spite of our eating the rate increase difference on S&T subscriptions for a while, and having Ephemeris postage and printing costs in excess of what the membership fees were expected to have to cover. Part of the gain is probably due to the fact that we did not stay-and-pay in the Astronomical League this year -- an expense reduction of about $750 IIRC. Another part of the gain seems to be that we had a good (better than average?) auction year. Assuming the transaction records from that period are complete and correct, the auction brought in $1070 this year, as opposed to <700 in 1998. Lessee.... 1070 + 750 = 1820. Plus a few hundred in donations, less those extra expenses... ~= 1900. Yep, that about does it. ;-) I think we balance! Now I have some questions about the allocation of these gains... 1) When Bob E. handed the accounts over to me (just after the 1999 auction) the auction proceeds had simply been deposited, but not allocated to any particular fund (so they were by default left in the General Fund). My guess is that they are *usually* dumped into either the Observatory or Equipment Fund, and not left in the General Fund as they were this time around. The records I have from 1998 do not show what happened to the money after the deposit that year either, so I don't have anything at all to go on. Anyone know the scoop? Are they usually left in the General Fund, or what? 2) Where should the unspent portion of the AL money go? Of course some part of it went toward covering our 1999 expense overruns, and the same portion will likely be needed (increasingly) for subsequent years; this is why we didn't automatically reduce our club dues when we dropped AL. Personally, I'd like to see any "extra" from our dues go first toward "improving our image" in a few ways, and anything beyond that I'd be happy to see go into the equipment fund. Image? Things that come to mind are: * The acquisition (and annual renewal) of a club-owned, permanent P.O. box. Ed has been very generous, but I'm sure we all realize that the arrangement can't be permanent (for many reasons). Also, I think the shared address has proven to be somewhat "high maintenance" (if not a hassle) for all involved since we started doing it. I'd like us to have our own, permanent address. * Professional printing of generic "club business cards" for members that want to carry them to hand out as opportunities present themselves -- at work, at star parties, or anytime someone shows interest in astronomy. (AFTER we get our own PO box, of course) * Printing larger, more detailed fliers and handouts to use at star parties and for "take one" locations (like Orion). I'm thinking about *static* info here that can be bulk-produced -- like basic introductory astronomy info, club history/mission, etc. in addition to the membership form. (also after getting a PO box) 3) Should we look at our expected expenses and income for 2000 will be, and actually "budget" (without getting too formal about it) how much we *need* in the General Fund to get us through 2000? It would be nice to know what part of the current balance is actually "excess", and to divert the remainder to improving both our image and our loaner scopes. Thanks, M -------------- next part -------------- SJAA 1999 Year-End Financial Summary ------------------------------------ Interest Checking (Multiple Funds) Year Starting Balance: $3319.96 Year Closing Balance: $5215.73 Change: $+1895.77 Fund Allocations: General Fund: $4313.90 Equipment Fund: $ 901.83 Money Market (Observatory Fund) Year Starting Balance: n/a Year Closing Balance: $2682.01 Savings (Gregory Fund) Year Starting Balance: n/a Year Closing Balance: $ 384.75 Total Account Assets: $8282.49 From north at znet.com Tue Jan 4 00:35:47 2000 From: north at znet.com (Dave North) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:04 2006 Subject: [BOARD] EOY financials PLUS some Questions References: <4.2.0.58.20000103003130.009a8730@NO.RECEIVE> Message-ID: <3871B0E2.12ECB05F@znet.com> Mark: >>Our checking account had a gain of almost $1900 this year!<< Way kewl! Glad to hear it. In case nobody knows, we're also at an all-time high for members (since I've been cutting the mailing list, anyway). >>When Bob E. handed the accounts over to me (just after the 1999 auction) the auction proceeds had simply been deposited, but not allocated to any particular fund (so they were by default left in the General Fund). My guess is that they are *usually* dumped into either the Observatory or Equipment Fund<< I don't think there ever has been a formal accounting for these things in any way that would generally be understood. I do remember when a bunch of money was sunk into the Observatory Fund out of the General Fund, but not as a specific preallocation but rather as a board decision. I do not personally know of any tradition other than that to guide us, and I don't really (personally) think that a useful direction to pursue at this time. Mike may have some comments about the loaner program, and your own comments bear consideration (I like all the ideas). I think you've forgotten, by the way, another significant source of income: the APD sales last year. >>Personally, I'd like to see any "extra" from our dues go first toward "improving our image" in a few ways, and anything beyond that I'd be happy to see go into the equipment fund.<< I agree. We've been a bit shoddy about this, and I suggest you remember to print out your suggestions for the board meeting. >>Should we look at our expected expenses and income for 2000 will be, and actually "budget" (without getting too formal about it) how much we *need* in the General Fund to get us through 2000?<< That would be handy, but I also think it's likely to be your cross to bear... Dave -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@astronomy.san-jose.ca.us Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From akkana at netscape.com Thu Jan 6 14:51:08 2000 From: akkana at netscape.com (Akkana Peck) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:04 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Minutes of 12/18 board meeting Message-ID: <38751C5C.B91EE2F8@netscape.com> Presented for your approval: Minutes of 12/18 SJAA board meeting: Meeting called to order at 6:50pm. Mojo passed out the minutes of the last meeting, which were approved. Treasurer: A check for $350 has been sent to the insurance company. This includes $50 extra for somewhat higher coverage. We elected not to buy extra coverage to cover use of alcohol at events. This does not require us to be policemen and prevent attendees from using alcohol, it merely means that we do not encourage its use at SJAA events. Secretary: The registration renewal form (?? that's what I wrote down -- is this for our nonprofit status?) wants gross receipts for the year, statements about misuse of charitable funds, and other questions. The consensus is we're clean and don't have to worry about any of this. We've received another note from the "loyal oppositition" (mgw) re the web page: "Is no-host sufficiently clear?" Consensus is that it is. Treasurer's report: We are +$1 on the RASC, with 5 left. We are -$5 on the APD, with 55 left -- lots of potential for more income. [Note: following numbers are what I wrote down at the meeting; the printed report Mark gave me is at home. :-( $3993 in general fund $1000 in loaner fund, plus $681 coming in $2678 in the observatory fund $384.28 in the Gregory fund MJ: astronomy.san-jose.ca.us is now being served by his Linux machine, free to us (thanks, Mojo!) MK: The Leonid group has lots of tapes, was considering selling them at $20 each and/or making CD-ROMS, with a refund if the buyer provided data back; or, might want to bring them in to a meeting and have people look at them there. Speakers: Feb. will be Jeff Moore, and also elections. March will be Jane and Mike Koop on the Leonids (perhaps with Peter and whomever else they want to bring). April is the auction. January: Michael Light won't be bringing books to sell. Meeting adjourned at 7:48. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@astronomy.san-jose.ca.us Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From north at znet.com Thu Jan 6 15:05:32 2000 From: north at znet.com (Dave North) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:04 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Minutes of 12/18 board meeting References: <38751C5C.B91EE2F8@netscape.com> Message-ID: <38751FBC.E8DAD1FB@znet.com> Akkana: >>it merely means that we do not encourage its use at SJAA events.<< It really means we don't serve, sell or sanction it, with emphasis on the first two. That's all I saw... can't help with the secretary query. Dave -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@astronomy.san-jose.ca.us Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jvn at sjpc.org Thu Jan 6 20:38:01 2000 From: jvn at sjpc.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:04 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Minutes of 12/18 board meeting References: <38751C5C.B91EE2F8@netscape.com> Message-ID: <38756DA9.5E0D@sjpc.org> Akkana Peck wrote: > Secretary: > The registration renewal form (?? that's what I wrote down -- is > this for our nonprofit status?) wants gross receipts for the year, > statements about misuse of charitable funds, and other questions. The form is from the Attorney-General's office. It is an annual form that replaces the older CT-2 that we had to file once every 10 (!) years. I don't have the form here (Mark has it) so I'm not certain of the form number. RRF-x or RFF-x for some values of x, R, and F. -- Jim Van Nuland, sent from PPP/Netscape. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@astronomy.san-jose.ca.us Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mojo at whiteoaks.com Sun Jan 9 13:23:12 2000 From: mojo at whiteoaks.com (Morris Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:04 2006 Subject: [BOARD] testing sjaa.net Message-ID: testing sjaaboard@sjaa.net Mojo -- Morris Jones <*> Campbell, CA mojo@whiteoaks.com http://www.whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@astronomy.san-jose.ca.us Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mojo at whiteoaks.com Sun Jan 9 13:32:00 2000 From: mojo at whiteoaks.com (Morris Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:04 2006 Subject: [BOARD] It's alive :) Message-ID: We have two names now. Well, three, if you count seds. :) sjaa.net is alive. Doesn't take long does it? Since the .us name is free, it'll stay up. Both names will be aliases for the same things. astronomy.san-jose.ca.us sjaa.net I've pointed the mailing list addresses to the seds majordomo address, so the members list appears as sjaa@sjaa.net (and sjaa-request@sjaa.net) as well. Either domain name will work to get to our web pages and mailing lists. (I don't know why, but I still have a fondness for astronomy.san-jose.ca.us. :) ) Mojo -- Morris Jones <*> Campbell, CA mojo@whiteoaks.com http://www.whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From north at znet.com Sun Jan 9 23:59:33 2000 From: north at znet.com (Dave North) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:04 2006 Subject: [BOARD] It's alive :) References: Message-ID: <38799163.606287B6@znet.com> Congratulations! >>I don't know why, but I still have a fondness for astronomy.san-jose.ca.us.<< I don't blame you. I do to. It's just that damned hyphen... but I still like it anyway. It can be the 'secret handshake...' /dave -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mojo at whiteoaks.com Mon Jan 10 00:15:01 2000 From: mojo at whiteoaks.com (Morris Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:04 2006 Subject: [BOARD] It's alive :) In-Reply-To: <38799163.606287B6@znet.com> Message-ID: :) Well it'll always be there. Mojo -- Morris Jones <*> Campbell, CA mojo@whiteoaks.com http://www.whiteoaks.com On Sun, 9 Jan 2000, Dave North wrote: > Congratulations! > > >>I don't know why, but I still have a fondness for > astronomy.san-jose.ca.us.<< > > I don't blame you. I do to. It's just that damned hyphen... but I still > like it anyway. It can be the 'secret handshake...' > > > /dave > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net > Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From north at znet.com Mon Jan 10 11:08:41 2000 From: north at znet.com (Dave North) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:04 2006 Subject: [BOARD] sjaa.net Message-ID: <387A2E30.1016E0CA@znet.com> just for ducks I just tried the simple sjaa.net in the URL bar in both Netscape and IE. Both work like lightning! Very kewl. d -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mojo at whiteoaks.com Tue Jan 11 00:22:56 2000 From: mojo at whiteoaks.com (Morris Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:04 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Feb and March activity calendar Message-ID: Please review the following for publication in the Ephemeris, and get back to me with any corrections ASAP: --------------------------------------------------------------- February 5 Fremont Peak star party. Sunset 5:35 p.m., 0% moon sets 5:57 p.m. 11 Houge Park star party. Sunset 5:43 p.m., 41% moon sets 0:11 a.m. 12 Observational Astronomy class, Houge Park, 8 p.m. 19 General Meeting at Houge Park, 8 p.m., Jeff Moore, Mars Polar Lander and the latest results from Galileo 25 Houge Park star party. Sunset 5:57 p.m., 60% moon rises 0:21 a.m. 26 Fremont Peak star party. Sunset 5:57 p.m., 50% moon rises 1:15 a.m. March 4 Fremont Peak star party. Sunset 6:04 p.m., 1% moon rises 6:30 a.m. 10 Houge Park star party. Sunset 6:11 p.m., 27% moon sets 11:11 p.m. 11 Observational Astronomy class, Houge Park, 8 p.m. 18 General Meeting at Houge Park, 8 p.m. 24 Houge Park star party. Sunset 6:24 p.m, 76% moon rises 0:02 a.m. 25 Fremont Peak star party. Sunset 6:23 p.m, 67% moon rise 11:59 p.m. School events, 2000: Feb. 2 - backup for Bernal Elementary 10 - working on this one. hold the date. Mar. 8 - Haman Elementary Winter Fremont Peak star parties are "no host." --------------------------------------------------------------- -- Morris Jones <*> Campbell, CA mojo@whiteoaks.com http://www.whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jvn at sjpc.org Tue Jan 11 00:56:17 2000 From: jvn at sjpc.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:04 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Feb and March activity calendar References: Message-ID: <387AF031.9E4@sjpc.org> Morris Jones wrote: > > Please review the following for publication in the Ephemeris, and get > back to me with any corrections ASAP: A more complete list of school events: Jan.11 - Meadows Elementary 13 - Rolling Hills Middle 19 - Bernal Elementary 26 - backup for Bernal Elementary Feb. 2 - backup for Bernal Elementary 8 - Dove Hill Elementary 10 - working on this one. hold the date. Mar. 8 - Haman Elementary For the Mar.18 general meeting, Mike Koop and Jane Houston will report on the Leonid meteors as seen high over Europe. -- Jim Van N. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mojo at whiteoaks.com Tue Jan 11 01:07:29 2000 From: mojo at whiteoaks.com (Morris Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:04 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Feb and March activity calendar In-Reply-To: <387AF031.9E4@sjpc.org> Message-ID: Thank you! Since it's the February issue, I left off the January school dates. Mojo -- Morris Jones <*> Campbell, CA mojo@whiteoaks.com http://www.whiteoaks.com On Tue, 11 Jan 2000, Jim Van Nuland wrote: > Morris Jones wrote: > > > > Please review the following for publication in the Ephemeris, and get > > back to me with any corrections ASAP: > > A more complete list of school events: > > Jan.11 - Meadows Elementary > 13 - Rolling Hills Middle > 19 - Bernal Elementary > 26 - backup for Bernal Elementary > Feb. 2 - backup for Bernal Elementary > 8 - Dove Hill Elementary > 10 - working on this one. hold the date. > Mar. 8 - Haman Elementary > > For the Mar.18 general meeting, Mike Koop and Jane Houston > will report on the Leonid meteors as seen high over Europe. > > -- > Jim Van N. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net > Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mojo at whiteoaks.com Tue Jan 11 01:30:50 2000 From: mojo at whiteoaks.com (Morris Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:04 2006 Subject: [BOARD] star party directions? Message-ID: Would someone review the "Directions to SJAA Star Parties" for accuracy and suitability for publishing in The Ephemeris? If it's suitable, I'll just lift the copy from the SJAA web page. Mojo -- Morris Jones <*> Campbell, CA mojo@whiteoaks.com http://www.whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mojo at whiteoaks.com Tue Jan 11 15:50:38 2000 From: mojo at whiteoaks.com (Morris Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:04 2006 Subject: [BOARD] ephemeris article Message-ID: Please review this article to see if I said anything wrong. :) The Central Bulge Support Fremont Peak Morris Jones The most precious resources to amateur astronomers are a dark, clear sky and a comfortable place to set up a telescope. Here in the South Bay we're fortunate to have unlimited access to an excellent place for amateur astronomy, Fremont Peak State Park. It's true that the skies at Fremont Peak aren't the darkest, and certainly with the growth of the state prison at Soledad, the amount of dark isn't likely to improve. Even so, when the marine layer cooperates, Fremont Peak can be a magical place to spend a summer night under the stars. On many nights the coastal inversion layer gives the peak warm, shirtsleeve temperatures that make it easy to observe all night long. The cameraderie of fellow stargazers makes for a rewarding experience. Astronomers presently enjoy a very good relationship with the state park service and particularly ranger Cameron Bowers and supervisor Mary Pass. The state park is pleased to have amateur astronomers use Fremont Peak, and the park service continues to provide support for astronomy activities at the park. In exchange, members of the Fremont Peak Observatory Association provide volunteer interpreters to conduct public astronomy nights on dark Saturday nights. More support for astronomy and astronomers is possible at Fremont Peak State Park, and there are a lot of exciting projects under discussion. In the next few years, significant amounts of money may become available for improvements to the park specifically to further amateur astronomy. This year the cooperative agreement between the state park service and the Fremont Peak Observatory Association is up for renewal, and negotiations are under way. Now more than ever it's important to maintain the favorable impression the park service has of astronomy and amateur astronomers. You can help by cooperating with FPOA and the park rangers. Be a positive influence. If you observe at Fremont Peak, consider joining the FPOA and attending one of their volunteer orientation sessions. Help make life easy for the park ranger. For us, Fremont Peak is a place for marathon astronomy sessions, but for Ranger Bowers, it's also his home. Be sure to respect that, and make his job a little easier. If we take care of Fremont Peak, we might be surprised at how well Fremont Peak takes care of us. -- Morris Jones <*> Campbell, CA mojo@whiteoaks.com http://www.whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From SJAA at IndigoSkies.com Tue Jan 11 16:09:01 2000 From: SJAA at IndigoSkies.com (Mark Taylor, Treasurer) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:04 2006 Subject: [BOARD] ephemeris article In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20000111160839.00a88b70@cupmail0.rational.com> At 03:50 PM 1/11/00 , Morris Jones wrote: >Please review this article to see if I said anything wrong. :) I like it :-) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From akkana at netscape.com Tue Jan 11 16:20:59 2000 From: akkana at netscape.com (Akkana Peck) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:04 2006 Subject: [BOARD] ephemeris article References: Message-ID: <387BC8EB.31D2277B@netscape.com> Morris Jones wrote: > > Please review this article to see if I said anything wrong. :) > > The Central Bulge > Support Fremont Peak > Morris Jones Very nice -- I like it. ...Akkana -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From north at znet.com Tue Jan 11 17:43:22 2000 From: north at znet.com (Dave North) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:04 2006 Subject: [BOARD] ephemeris article References: Message-ID: <387BDC39.BAA26078@znet.com> I guess this is in response to some crap I'm not reading? Nevertheless, it's a fine article. I would however, delete this: >>It's true that the skies at Fremont Peak aren't the darkest, and certainly with the growth of the state prison at Soledad, the amount of dark isn't likely to improve. Even so, when the marine layer cooperates,<< ...since I'm learning over and over how folks focus on the negative. It's really not necessary here... This could be inflamatory: >>Help make life easy for the park ranger. For us, Fremont Peak is a place for marathon astronomy sessions, but for Ranger Bowers, it's also his home. Be sure to respect that, and make his job a little easier.<< ...though I have no real suggestions for change. Use more paragraph breaks! Sounds good! Dave -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mojo at whiteoaks.com Wed Jan 12 00:11:23 2000 From: mojo at whiteoaks.com (Morris Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:04 2006 Subject: [BOARD] slight edit Message-ID: I did a little touch up. The Central Bulge Support Fremont Peak Morris Jones The most precious resources to amateur astronomers are a dark, clear sky and a comfortable place to set up a telescope. Here in the South Bay we're fortunate to have unlimited access to an excellent place for amateur astronomy, Fremont Peak State Park. When the marine layer conspires to cover the encroaching civilization, Fremont Peak is a magical place to spend a summer night under the stars. On many nights the coastal inversion layer gives the peak warm, shirtsleeve temperatures that make it easy to observe all night long. The cameraderie of fellow stargazers makes for a rewarding experience. Astronomers presently enjoy a very good relationship with the state park service and particularly ranger Cameron Bowers and supervisor Mary Pass. The state park is pleased to have amateur astronomers use Fremont Peak, and the park service continues to provide support for astronomy activities at the park. In exchange, members of the Fremont Peak Observatory Association provide volunteer interpreters to conduct public astronomy sessions on dark Saturday nights. More support for astronomy and astronomers is possible at Fremont Peak State Park, and rumor has it there are a lot of exciting projects under discussion. In the next few years, significant amounts of money may become available for improvements to the park specifically to further amateur astronomy. This year the cooperative agreement between the state park service and the Fremont Peak Observatory Association is up for renewal, and negotiations are under way. Now more than ever it's important to maintain the favorable impression the park service has of astronomy and amateur astronomers. You can help by cooperating with FPOA and the park rangers. Be a positive influence. If you observe at Fremont Peak, consider joining the FPOA and attending one of their volunteer orientation sessions. Help make life easy for the park ranger as well. For us, Fremont Peak is a place for marathon astronomy sessions, but for Ranger Bowers, it's also his home. By respecting the few park rules, we can add to the favorable image amateur astronomers have with the park service. The peak is a park and wildlife habitat as well, not just an observatory. If we take care of Fremont Peak, we might be surprised at how well Fremont Peak takes care of us. -- Morris Jones <*> Campbell, CA mojo@whiteoaks.com http://www.whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From koopm at best.com Wed Jan 12 00:15:20 2000 From: koopm at best.com (Michael Koop) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:04 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Minutes of 12/18 board meeting Message-ID: <01bf5cd5$2b2074c0$265156ce@koopm.vip.best.com> Hi Akkana, If you could also add who was in attendance by name, (I think everyone but Bill A, who gave notification). After a while you all might forget who MK was...... Put a carriage return before the opposition party (New Subject)..... Clarification On Leonid Tapes: The Leonid MAC campaign was very successful. They have lots of video tapes of data which have captured the meteor storm. This leaves alot of data that needs to be reduced. The SJAA with it's non-profit, educational charter, might be able to help. The video tapes or CD Roms along with instructions on how to reduce the data could be distributed by the SJAA for a nominal cost of say +ACQ-20. Once the data is sent back by a customer, the money can be refunded. Any profit made will be saved for meteor projects. This way the rest of the world can experience the excitement of the storm and the data will get reduced. No disapproval was noted by the board, so Mike Koop will present the idea to Peter Jenniskins. Later, Mike -----Original Message----- From: Akkana Peck +ADw-akkana+AEA-netscape.com+AD4- To: sjaaboard+AEA-astronomy.san-jose.ca.us +ADw-sjaaboard+AEA-astronomy.san-jose.ca.us+AD4- Date: Thursday, January 06, 2000 2:59 PM Subject: +AFs-BOARD+AF0- Minutes of 12/18 board meeting Presented for your approval: Minutes of 12/18 SJAA board meeting: Meeting called to order at 6:50pm. Mojo passed out the minutes of the last meeting, which were approved. Treasurer: A check for +ACQ-350 has been sent to the insurance company. This includes +ACQ-50 extra for somewhat higher coverage. We elected not to buy extra coverage to cover use of alcohol at events. This does not require us to be policemen and prevent attendees from using alcohol, it merely means that we do not encourage its use at SJAA events. Secretary: The registration renewal form (?? that's what I wrote down -- is this for our nonprofit status?) wants gross receipts for the year, statements about misuse of charitable funds, and other questions. The consensus is we're clean and don't have to worry about any of this. We've received another note from the +ACI-loyal oppositition+ACI- (mgw) re the web page: +ACI-Is no-host sufficiently clear?+ACI- Consensus is that it is. Treasurer's report: We are +ACQ-1 on the RASC, with 5 left. We are -+ACQ-5 on the APD, with 55 left -- lots of potential for more income. +AFs-Note: following numbers are what I wrote down at the meeting+ADs- the printed report Mark gave me is at home. :-( +ACQ-3993 in general fund +ACQ-1000 in loaner fund, plus +ACQ-681 coming in +ACQ-2678 in the observatory fund +ACQ-384.28 in the Gregory fund MJ: astronomy.san-jose.ca.us is now being served by his Linux machine, free to us (thanks, Mojo+ACE-) MK: The Leonid group has lots of tapes, was considering selling them at +ACQ-20 each and/or making CD-ROMS, with a refund if the buyer provided data back+ADs- or, might want to bring them in to a meeting and have people look at them there. Speakers: Feb. will be Jeff Moore, and also elections. March will be Jane and Mike Koop on the Leonids (perhaps with Peter and whomever else they want to bring). April is the auction. January: Michael Light won't be bringing books to sell. Meeting adjourned at 7:48. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard+AEA-astronomy.san-jose.ca.us Changes made only by list administrator: mojo+AEA-whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mojo at whiteoaks.com Wed Jan 12 01:05:02 2000 From: mojo at whiteoaks.com (Morris Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:04 2006 Subject: [BOARD] help proofread Message-ID: If any of you are still up, you can help me proofread the February Ephemeris. You'll need Acrobat 4.0. (Sowwy!) http://notrump.whiteoaks.com/mojo/EphFeb00.pdf Mojo -- Morris Jones <*> Campbell, CA mojo@whiteoaks.com http://www.whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mojo at whiteoaks.com Wed Jan 12 01:49:36 2000 From: mojo at whiteoaks.com (Morris Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:04 2006 Subject: [BOARD] copy count? Message-ID: Dave, 350 copies of the Ephemeris? Mojo -- Morris Jones <*> Campbell, CA mojo@whiteoaks.com http://www.whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mojo at whiteoaks.com Wed Jan 12 03:55:45 2000 From: mojo at whiteoaks.com (Morris Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:04 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Elections? Message-ID: When are elections? Mojo -- Morris Jones <*> Campbell, CA mojo@whiteoaks.com http://www.whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From north at znet.com Wed Jan 12 09:09:50 2000 From: north at znet.com (Dave North) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:04 2006 Subject: [BOARD] slight edit References: Message-ID: <387CB55C.E54225A0@znet.com> Woo! Perfecto. dave -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From north at znet.com Wed Jan 12 09:11:40 2000 From: north at znet.com (Dave North) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:04 2006 Subject: [BOARD] copy count? References: Message-ID: <387CB5CA.A2C02A25@znet.com> >>Dave, 350 copies of the Ephemeris?<< I've been going 325 unless it's a small one... -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From north at znet.com Wed Jan 12 09:12:27 2000 From: north at znet.com (Dave North) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:04 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Elections? References: Message-ID: <387CB5F9.65D6736C@znet.com> >>When are elections?<< February meeting. March installs the new board (if I remember right). d -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mojo at whiteoaks.com Thu Jan 13 11:18:03 2000 From: mojo at whiteoaks.com (Morris Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:04 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Astronomy class (fwd) Message-ID: I don't have a forwarding address for Doug. :( -- Morris Jones <*> Campbell, CA mojo@whiteoaks.com http://www.whiteoaks.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:12:25 -0800 From: Chandrika Ramanujam To: ephemeris@whiteoaks.com Subject: Astronomy class Hi Doug, I am a beginner astronomer and came to know you were planning on a class this saturday for beginners. Do I need to register for this class? Thanks Chandrika Chandrika Ramanujam NMS Software Development Cisco Systems, Inc. (408) 525 1940 (w) (408) 527-0495 (w fax) cramanau@cisco.com Pager: cramanau@epage.cisco.com, (800) 365-4578 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From billa at znet.com Thu Jan 13 11:22:40 2000 From: billa at znet.com (Bill Arnett) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:04 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Astronomy class In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 1/13/00 11:18 AM, Morris Jones wrote: > I don't have a forwarding address for Doug. :( mailto:d_davis@whlarchitects.com -- Bill Arnett Emerald Hills, CA 37 27.6 north 122 16.2 west billa@znet.com http://www.seds.org/billa/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mojo at whiteoaks.com Thu Jan 13 11:24:14 2000 From: mojo at whiteoaks.com (Morris Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:04 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Astronomy class In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks! I'll bounce the request to him. Mojo -- Morris Jones <*> Campbell, CA mojo@whiteoaks.com http://www.whiteoaks.com On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Bill Arnett wrote: > On 1/13/00 11:18 AM, Morris Jones wrote: > > > I don't have a forwarding address for Doug. :( > > mailto:d_davis@whlarchitects.com > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mojo at whiteoaks.com Thu Jan 13 12:40:59 2000 From: mojo at whiteoaks.com (Morris Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:04 2006 Subject: [BOARD] talked to doug Message-ID: I talked to Doug on the phone ... Their in the midst of changing service providers, so their frame relay connection to Best is down, and the DSL line is coming up. So bumpy email for a couple of days. Mojo -- Morris Jones <*> Campbell, CA mojo@whiteoaks.com http://www.whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From koopm at best.com Thu Jan 13 13:01:00 2000 From: koopm at best.com (Michael Koop) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:04 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Astronomy class In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I have contacted Doug to get the pertinate info but have not written a general post to the mail lists yet. Will do sometime this afternoon. Mike On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Morris Jones wrote: > Thanks! I'll bounce the request to him. > > Mojo > -- > Morris Jones <*> > Campbell, CA > mojo@whiteoaks.com > http://www.whiteoaks.com > > On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Bill Arnett wrote: > > > On 1/13/00 11:18 AM, Morris Jones wrote: > > > > > I don't have a forwarding address for Doug. :( > > > > mailto:d_davis@whlarchitects.com > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net > Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From koopm at best.com Mon Jan 17 23:21:00 2000 From: koopm at best.com (Michael Koop) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:05 2006 Subject: [BOARD] PO Box, Cards, and Flyers for SJAA Message-ID: <01bf6184$92a92840$265156ce@koopm.vip.best.com> Mark Taylor Said: +ACo- The acquisition (and annual renewal) of a club-owned, permanent P.O. box. Ed has been very generous, but I'm sure we all realize that the arrangement can't be permanent (for many reasons). Also, I think the shared address has proven to be somewhat +ACI-high maintenance+ACI- (if not a hassle) for all involved since we started doing it. I'd like us to have our own, permanent address. +ACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAq- Dave, what does Ed think about this? I do not think it has been little if any additional work for Ed. I think he justs puts the SJAA stuff in an envelope and tells Dave there is stuff to pick up. There are advantages with sharing with Ed: He goes to the Post office daily for his business, so any mail is promptly picked up. I do not know if Ed screens the SJAA mail. If Ed leaves the area, the SJAA can pick up the PO Box and forward any mail to him. Of course, saving 100 buck per year is a nice bonus. If Ed does not want to continue this relationship, then most certainly we will get our own box. Mark Taylor Sez: +ACo- Professional printing of generic +ACI-club business cards+ACI- for members that want to carry them to hand out as opportunities present themselves -- at work, at star parties, or anytime someone shows interest in astronomy. (AFTER we get our own PO box, of course) +ACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKg- Great Idea+ACE- We did this for the Tech event also. Bill A, Did we see any increase in activity after the Tech event possibly because of these cards? Would Business card displays (Poster with Take One) at libraries, Orion, and other places be cheaper than whole Ephemeris Issues? Mark Taylor Says: +ACo- Printing larger, more detailed fliers and handouts to use at star parties and for +ACI-take one+ACI- locations (like Orion). I'm thinking about +ACo-static+ACo- info here that can be bulk-produced -- like basic introductory astronomy info, club history/mission, etc. in addition to the membership form. (also after getting a PO box) +ACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAqACoAKgAq- Sounds good Mark. I do have some of the older SJAA stuff if you need anything for a reference. Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From billa at znet.com Mon Jan 17 23:30:44 2000 From: billa at znet.com (Bill Arnett) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:05 2006 Subject: [BOARD] PO Box, Cards, and Flyers for SJAA In-Reply-To: <01bf6184$92a92840$265156ce@koopm.vip.best.com> Message-ID: On 1/17/00 11:21 PM, Michael Koop wrote: >.... Bill A, Did we see any > increase in activity after the Tech event... Not that I remember but the membership secretary would have a better reading on it. -- Bill Arnett Emerald Hills, CA 37 27.6 north 122 16.2 west billa@znet.com http://www.seds.org/billa/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From koopm at best.com Mon Jan 17 23:32:25 2000 From: koopm at best.com (Michael Koop) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:05 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Full Moon Book Sales Message-ID: <01bf6186$2ade8000$265156ce@koopm.vip.best.com> I've been emailing Michael Light on what he wanted to do about book sales. He was reluctant to sell any books, so I took the initiative to buy and sell the books myself (with his permission). I bought 20 books, that with shipping comes to 30 dollars per book. The question is how much do we want to sell the books for? The list price is 50 dollars, with most Internet book stores coming in at around 38 dollars. I'm thinking Forty Dollars which if all books sell would net a profit of 200 dollars for the loaner program? Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From billa at znet.com Mon Jan 17 23:40:04 2000 From: billa at znet.com (Bill Arnett) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:05 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Full Moon Book Sales In-Reply-To: <01bf6186$2ade8000$265156ce@koopm.vip.best.com> Message-ID: On 1/17/00 11:32 PM, Michael Koop wrote: > I've been emailing Michael Light on what he wanted to do about book sales. > He was reluctant to sell any books, so I took the initiative to buy and sell > the books myself (with his permission). I bought 20 books, that with > shipping comes to 30 dollars per book. The question is how much do we want > to sell the books for? The list price is 50 dollars, with most Internet book > stores coming in at around 38 dollars. I'm thinking Forty Dollars which if > all books sell would net a profit of 200 dollars for the loaner program? That works for me. -- Bill Arnett Emerald Hills, CA 37 27.6 north 122 16.2 west billa@znet.com http://www.seds.org/billa/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From north at znet.com Mon Jan 17 23:55:54 2000 From: north at znet.com (Dave North) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:05 2006 Subject: [BOARD] PO Box, Cards, and Flyers for SJAA References: <01bf6184$92a92840$265156ce@koopm.vip.best.com> Message-ID: <38841C83.79D6AB18@znet.com> Mike: >>Dave, what does Ed think about this?<< Ed thinks we'd better think fast and hard about getting our own address. More on this at the meeting. >> Did we see any increase in activity after the Tech event<< I seriously doubt it. We got nailed badly by the weather, and had difficult circumstances. The Tech folks did what they could, but really... rain? -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From north at znet.com Mon Jan 17 23:58:38 2000 From: north at znet.com (Dave North) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:05 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Full Moon Book Sales References: Message-ID: <38841D26.D9D7C773@znet.com> $40 would be fine, and I hope it comes back to us. I suspect we should consider (as a board) reimbursing in any event and selling them for as long as it takes, if we don't move 20. Dave -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mojo at virage.com Sun Jan 23 12:20:41 2000 From: mojo at virage.com (Morris Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:05 2006 Subject: test message Message-ID: This is a test message to info@sjaa.net -- Morris Jones Virage, Inc. mojo@virage.com From mojo at virage.com Sun Jan 23 12:26:26 2000 From: mojo at virage.com (Morris Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:05 2006 Subject: [BOARD] testing Message-ID: I sent test messages from my work account just to verify that they'd work fine from outside the list and such. The following aliases appear to be up and running pres president vp vicepresident sec secretary treas treasurer info webmaster loaner ephemeris Tres cool :) Mojo -- Morris Jones Virage, Inc. mojo@virage.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Treasurer at SJAA.net Sun Jan 23 12:37:44 2000 From: Treasurer at SJAA.net (Mark Taylor) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:05 2006 Subject: [BOARD] testing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20000123123646.00abb790@NO.RECEIVE> Way cool; thanks, Mojo! M At 12:26 PM 1/23/00 , Morris Jones wrote: >I sent test messages from my work account just to verify that they'd >work fine from outside the list and such. The following aliases appear >to be up and running -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jvn at sjpc.org Sun Jan 23 21:27:06 2000 From: jvn at sjpc.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:05 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Insurance: $250 or $350?? Message-ID: <388BE2AA.5CAC@sjpc.org> At the Board meeting there was a question, whether the insurance cost $250 or $350. I've been looking at the liability insurance application. In the upper part of the form, where one computes the price per member, there is a minimum of $250 which applies to us. Then way down near the bottom there is an additional $100 Administration Fee. So the total is indeed the amount for which the check was written. There is a footnote that says "The PGMA, Inc. Management and Certificate fees are NOT premium. They are fees which are fully earned and non-refundable at inception." So if we received a receipt for only $250, it may not include that management fee. -- Jim Van Nuland, sent from PPP/Netscape. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From north at znet.com Sun Jan 23 23:06:13 2000 From: north at znet.com (Dave North) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:05 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Insurance: $250 or $350?? References: <388BE2AA.5CAC@sjpc.org> Message-ID: <388BF9E4.F81A203B@znet.com> >>So if we received a receipt for only $250, it may not include that management fee.<< Jim, I think you're probably right on this one. We could get clarification (that's up to Mark) but I think you've hit the nail on the head. That's exactly the way I remember the text reading. Dave -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Treasurer at SJAA.net Sun Jan 23 23:15:54 2000 From: Treasurer at SJAA.net (Mark Taylor) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:05 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Insurance: $250 or $350?? In-Reply-To: <388BE2AA.5CAC@sjpc.org> Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20000123231500.00ab0aa0@NO.RECEIVE> At 09:27 PM 1/23/00 , Jim Van Nuland wrote: >At the Board meeting there was a question, whether the insurance cost >$250 or $350. > > I've been looking at the liability insurance application. In the >upper part of the form, where one computes the price per member, there >is a minimum of $250 which applies to us. Then way down near the bottom >there is an additional $100 Administration Fee. So the total is indeed >the amount for which the check was written. > > There is a footnote that says "The PGMA, Inc. Management and >Certificate fees are NOT premium. They are fees which are fully earned >and non-refundable at inception." So if we received a receipt for only >$250, it may not include that management fee. Thanks Jim, I'll read that as well. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Treasurer at SJAA.net Sun Jan 30 11:22:41 2000 From: Treasurer at SJAA.net (Mark Taylor) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:05 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Fwd: Re: [fromTAC] Fremont Peak "access rules" Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20000130111012.00a3b4f0@NO.RECEIVE> Oh, boy; how subtle! >X-Authentication-Warning: seds.lpl.arizona.edu: majordom set sender to >owner-sf-bay-tac@seds.org using -f >Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 09:28:25 -0800 (PST) >From: Mark Wagner >X-Sender: resource@waltz >To: sf-bay-tac@seds.org >Subject: Re: [TAC] Fremont Peak "access rules" >Sender: owner-sf-bay-tac@seds.org >Reply-To: sf-bay-tac@seds.org > >On Fri, 28 Jan 1999 RichardN22@aol.com wrote: > > > peak to be a volunteer. I know of at least one organization that > regularly > > advertises star parties at the Peak, yet never shows up, and relies on > >There is an interesting thread on s.a.a. currently "Another Observing Site >Bites The Dust".... describing a club in Arizona (?) that advertises star >parties but does not have anyone show up. The person who went out to the >observing site based on the invitation ended up feeling at risk, and was >not very happy about it. Another posted, upon reading what transpired, >suggested the club was setting itself up for a liability lawsuit. > >Tsk tsk tsk.... > >Mark Wagner >mgw@resource-intl.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jvn at svpal.org Sun Jan 30 23:57:18 2000 From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:05 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Re: [TAC] Fremont Peak "access rules" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Attribution snipped, donno for sure who wrote it; added the missing line as I recall it from a few days ago.... > > peak to be a volunteer. I know of at least one organization that regularly > > advertises star parties at the Peak, yet never shows up, and relies on [whoever happens to be there to greet visitors....] This thread has been deploring the loss of what they had gotten used to (wide-open access) at Frement Peak. I myself am saddened by the loss of what *I* was used to: an amateur community that was accepting of all, and which was willing, even anxious, to welcome a newcomer, regardless of how he happend to come to the park, or whose invitation he read. Now we have an "us vs. them" mentality, with the above (quoted) kinds of complaints. One of "them" has bluntly stated that he is not there to entertain some other club's invitees. What happened? Well, the fact is that I *do* know the history of this divisivness. Do not ask me to rehash it here -- would only prolong the wounds. The major player in it, a person who thought it was great fun to bait and insult others, is no longer in the area. Unhappily, the results are still with us. It's time to forgive and get on with our common love of the sky. Have any of you heard me sniping at TAC? Or at any other club or non-club? Take a lesson. -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From billa at znet.com Mon Jan 31 12:05:03 2000 From: billa at znet.com (Bill Arnett) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:05 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Re: [TAC] Fremont Peak "access rules" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: on 1/30/00 11:57 PM, Jim Van Nuland at jvn@svpal.org wrote: >.... It's time to > forgive and get on with our common love of the sky... I agree. I tried very hard to make peace between the TAC folks and SJAA but I failed. I've decided the best I can do for now is to simply ignore the whole thing. I've unsubscribed from TAC and feel no great loss :-) I trust that the park service et al know that TAC does not speak for all of us. -- Bill (temporarily in San Diego) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jvn at sjpc.org Mon Jan 31 20:29:06 2000 From: jvn at sjpc.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:05 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Availability? of hall for auction Message-ID: <38966112.7E43@sjpc.org> Talked today to Mary Labate at Kirk Community Center, regarding starting time on April 15. The child-care activity has priority as it is a city activity, and is mandated by some law. They have not yet set their schedule, as it depends on how many kids are entered into the program. She doesn't expect their schedule until late February, but will try to get some advance information. The other hall is not available. It now has a different key, and a different burglar alarm combination. I asked if it could be made available if we can't have the regular hall, and she said she'd ask her boss if an exception can be made. That room has serious acoustical trouble: so much echo so it's very difficult to hear the auctioneer. I suggested that we defensively move our starting time down to 2 pm. She thought it was an excellent idea, but that the child care might run later, as their schedule is not yet determined. Can you spell f l a k e y?? I thought you could! This is not sounding very good. I told her that we need to know Real Soon Now, as publicity should go out in the next week. She said she'd try to find out something. I'll call her again next Monday. Clear Skies (and schedules)! -- Jim Van Nuland, Secretary, San Jose Astronomical Association. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From billa at znet.com Mon Jan 31 21:51:40 2000 From: billa at znet.com (Bill Arnett) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:05 2006 Subject: [BOARD] FW: Astronomy talk for Boy Scouts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: on 1/31/00 1:47 PM, jbrannon@us.ibm.com at jbrannon@us.ibm.com wrote: > > > Bill, > I got your name from the San Jose Astronomical Association. I am a > Boy Scout leader, and I am looking for someone to give a 30-40 talk on > Astronomy at our Boy Scout meeting next Monday, 1/7/00. DO you mean 2/7/00? > The talk does not > have to be special, but rather general and appropriate for 12-15 year olds. > Can you provide me with any suggested names? Thanks. > > Jim > > James Brannon > IBM Storage Systems Division > 5600 Cottle Rd, E25/50-1 > San Jose, CA 95193 > TEL: 408-256-4565 > FAX: 408-256-2410 > E-MAIL: jbrannon@us.ibm.com > > " Age, Experience, and Treachery will always overcome Youth, Beauty, and > Skill " > > -- Bill (temporarily in San Diego) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------