From jvn at sjpc.org Wed Oct 4 00:00:36 2000 From: jvn at sjpc.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:07 2006 Subject: [BOARD] [Fwd: [SJAA] Foucault test apparatus] Message-ID: <39DAD594.37DC@sjpc.org> -- Jim Van Nuland, Secretary, San Jose Astronomical Association. Jim Van Nuland, Postmaster, sjpc.org JVN's home page SJAA's home page -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Ilkka Kallio Subject: [SJAA] Foucault test apparatus Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 18:39:33 -0700 Size: 2081 Url: http://www.sjaa.net/pipermail/sjaaboard/attachments/20001004/45a109f8/attachment.mht From jvn at sjpc.org Thu Oct 12 21:36:02 2000 From: jvn at sjpc.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:07 2006 Subject: [BOARD] [Fwd: 2001 Space Calendar discount for your astronomy club members] Message-ID: <39E69132.7C67@sjpc.org> Do we want to get into this? I don't care to, myself. -- Jim Van Nuland, Secretary, San Jose Astronomical Association. Jim Van Nuland, Postmaster, sjpc.org JVN's home page SJAA's home page -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Steve Cariddi" Subject: 2001 Space Calendar discount for your astronomy club members Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 23:51:14 -0400 Size: 2836 Url: http://www.sjaa.net/pipermail/sjaaboard/attachments/20001012/d3ceb779/attachment.mht From billosh at accesscom.com Thu Oct 12 22:16:58 2000 From: billosh at accesscom.com (Bill O'Shaughnessy) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:07 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Cant make SJAA Board Mtg Message-ID: <39E69ACA.8CEBF544@accesscom.com> I will not be able to attend the SJAA Board Meeting 10/14/2000. My daughter is giving a speech at the San Jose State Event center as part of the San Jose Symphony Youth Orchestra's performance that night. This concert is not one of their regularly scheduled concerts, but is part of the San Jose Symphony's community outreach program. Clear Skys, Bill O'Shaughnessy ps. Had a real nice School Star Party at Silver Oak School tonight. Had to fight clouds and the Moon but we won. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From north at znet.com Fri Oct 13 00:37:39 2000 From: north at znet.com (Dave North) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:07 2006 Subject: [BOARD] [Fwd: 2001 Space Calendar discount for your astronomy club members] In-Reply-To: <39E69132.7C67@sjpc.org> References: <39E69132.7C67@sjpc.org> Message-ID: <00101300383001.03992@north> jvn: >>Do we want to get into this? << Not me! Get them to send a sample and we can auction it... d -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From bartolij at pom-emh1.army.mil Fri Oct 13 14:56:56 2000 From: bartolij at pom-emh1.army.mil (Bartolini, Jim) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:07 2006 Subject: [BOARD] [Fwd: 2001 Space Calendar discount for your astronomy club members] Message-ID: <9112B1E00AB4D311A9F3009027AF88B602029E80@pom-emh1.army.mil> From: JVN >>Do we want to get into this? I don't care to, myself. .....nor do I..... Jim ........... :-) ================================================= Jim Bartolini ================================================= -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jvn at sjpc.org Sat Oct 14 12:35:15 2000 From: jvn at sjpc.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:07 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Absence Message-ID: <39E8B573.4E33@sjpc.org> Hi, All, I'm back in San Jose after a fine vacation. I'm in good health, and intended to be at tonight's board & lecture. I also have out-of-town guests, so it's probably that I will NOT be at the meeting. Clear Skies! -- Jim Van Nuland, Secretary, San Jose Astronomical Association. Jim Van Nuland, Postmaster, sjpc.org JVN's home page SJAA's home page -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mojo at whiteoaks.com Sun Oct 15 15:40:01 2000 From: mojo at whiteoaks.com (Morris Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:07 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Test mailing for Gary Mitchell Message-ID: Gary's address has been in the board email list ever since he was elected, as: wb6yru@aenet.com Does this work? I also added "ephemeris" to the board list. Mojo -- Morris Jones <*> San Rafael, CA mojo@whiteoaks.com http://www.whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From bill at nineplanets.org Mon Oct 16 16:49:03 2000 From: bill at nineplanets.org (Bill Arnett) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:07 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Terry Kahl Message-ID: Any one have an email address for Terry Kahl? I have a request from someone to get rid of some old Astronomy magazines. -- Bill Arnett bill@nineplanets.org Emerald Hills, CA USA http://nineplanets.org/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From wb6yru at aenet.net Mon Oct 16 17:27:12 2000 From: wb6yru at aenet.net (Gary Mitchell) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:07 2006 Subject: [BOARD] board meeting minutes Message-ID: <39EB9CE0.9BA@aenet.net> SJAA board meeting, October 14, 2000 Attendance: Jim Bartolini, Bill Arnett, Mike Koop, Dave North, Gary Mitchell, Akkana Peck, Jeff Kirkbride, Georgeana Rudge. Meeting called to order at 6:35 PM by Dave North. Jeff Kirkbride and Georgeana Rudge reported on activity at Evergreen College regarding the observatory. They have a budget now ($420,000). It looks like this will actually happen, and fairly soon too. Jeff handed out the following document: ================================================ Proposed mission statement of the EVC Montgomery Hill Observatory 1) The usage of the observatory shall be as follows: a) visual observing 70 percent b) image acquisition (CCD cameras, photography, spectroscopy) 20 to 25 percent c) research projects for staff and students, 5 to 10 percent 2) Academic use a) teaching the use of telescopes b) importance of polar alignment c) refractors and relfectors d) special projects for students and staff 3) Community use a) SJAA collaboration b) star parties ================================================ Discussion followed about possible types of scopes and domes. Lew Kurtz arrived later: Proposed idea of having free SJAA memberships given at Orion Telescopes with the purchase of a telescope. This will be explored further. Mike Koop reported on star party event at Lake San Antonio park (San Louis Obispo). The site will hold 250-300 scopes. Adjourned 7:50 PM Recording for the Secretary, Gary Mitchell -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From north at znet.com Mon Oct 16 18:53:37 2000 From: north at znet.com (Dave North) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:07 2006 Subject: [BOARD] board meeting minutes References: <39EB9CE0.9BA@aenet.net> Message-ID: <39EBB11E.87074202@znet.com> Looks fine to me, Gary. Thanks! Dave -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From north at znet.com Mon Oct 16 18:54:48 2000 From: north at znet.com (Dave North) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:07 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Terry Kahl References: Message-ID: <39EBB165.70C93E16@znet.com> Bill: >>Any one have an email address for Terry Kahl?<< terkahl@pacbell.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jvn at sjpc.org Tue Oct 17 12:04:18 2000 From: jvn at sjpc.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:07 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Secondary talk Nov.11 Message-ID: <39ECA2B2.460A@sjpc.org> Hi, All, A reminder that Greg Swasbrick will do a few-minute talk at the top of the Nov.11 general meeting, and (if he has takers) a little more after Alan closes his mirror talk. He's talking about an astronomical tour to Australia. Morris: he'd like the overhead projector. I'll bring the screen. I don't recall what projectors Alan will use. -- Jim Van Nuland, Secretary, San Jose Astronomical Association. Jim Van Nuland, Postmaster, sjpc.org JVN's home page SJAA's home page -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mojo at whiteoaks.com Tue Oct 17 12:24:54 2000 From: mojo at whiteoaks.com (Morris Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:08 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Secondary talk Nov.11 In-Reply-To: <39ECA2B2.460A@sjpc.org> Message-ID: Acknowledged. =) Mojo On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Jim Van Nuland wrote: > Hi, All, > > A reminder that Greg Swasbrick will do a few-minute talk at the top of > the Nov.11 general meeting, and (if he has takers) a little more after > Alan closes his mirror talk. He's talking about an astronomical tour to > Australia. > > Morris: he'd like the overhead projector. I'll bring the screen. I > don't recall what projectors Alan will use. > > -- Morris Jones <*> San Rafael, CA mojo@whiteoaks.com http://www.whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mojo at whiteoaks.com Wed Oct 18 08:21:36 2000 From: mojo at whiteoaks.com (Morris Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:08 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Re: the board remailer In-Reply-To: <39ED7419.646B@aenet.net> Message-ID: Arggggh! =) fixed. Mojo On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Gary Mitchell wrote: > Jim Van Nuland wrote: > > > > Gary Mitchell wrote: > > > > > > Hi Jim, > > > > > > I got hoodwinked into taking the minutes at the last SJAA board > > > meeting. At that time, I learned of the board's remailer. I've > > > never received anything from that remailer (that I know of) and > > > doubt if I'm even on it. > > > > This is strange -- Morris (who maintains the list) had recently asked > > (on the remailer) whether your address >wb6yru@aenet.com< is a correct > > one, and he said that it's been on the list since you came on the > > board. > > That's not my address! If I had seen such a post I most certainly > would have replied. My silence should have been a dead give-away, > especially since the question came up. > > > I'll CC him on this note so sees your address and he can check > > it. Since what he gave ( in >< just above) appears to be the same as > > the one from which you sent your note to me, I've no idea why you have > > not been getting stuff from it. > > Look again--more carefully. (Hint: not every domain ends with .com) > > Actually, this sort of thing has happened to me before. Apparently > people see ".com" so much, they stop noticing alternatives. > > Maybe this is the same reason why my recent post to the regular > remailer (SJAA) bounced too. I had been receiving stuff from it, > but not lately. Then when I posted something a couple of weeks > ago, it bounced. Bill Arnett apparently was notified of the > bounce and got me subscribed (again?). > > However, come to think of it, I haven't received anything since. > Has it been quiet? > > Clear skies, > Gary > E-mail wb6yru@aenet.net > ^^^ > -- Morris Jones <*> San Rafael, CA mojo@whiteoaks.com http://www.whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mojo at whiteoaks.com Wed Oct 18 08:37:41 2000 From: mojo at whiteoaks.com (Morris Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:08 2006 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Took me a couple of mistries, but I finally got Gary's correct email address into the board remailer. It's a sad disservice done by aenet.com, that they should accept and "black hole" email that they obviously can't deliver. I suppose it's done under some guise of the battle against spam, and we're just collateral damage in that war. :) Mojo -- Morris Jones <*> San Rafael, CA mojo@whiteoaks.com http://www.whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From wb6yru at aenet.net Thu Oct 19 00:32:22 2000 From: wb6yru at aenet.net (Gary Mitchell) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:08 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Re: References: Message-ID: <39EEA386.7237@aenet.net> Morris Jones wrote: > > Took me a couple of mistries, but I finally got Gary's correct email > address into the board remailer. > > It's a sad disservice done by aenet.com, that they should accept and > "black hole" email that they obviously can't deliver. I suppose it's done > under some guise of the battle against spam, and we're just collateral > damage in that war. :) I believe this is the first message I've received from the board remailer, (I didn't even know it existed until recently). The owner of aenet.net just told me that aenet.com is owned by someone else. I seriously doubt they also have a user named "wb6yru". It's hard to understand why they don't bounce e-mail to non-users. I doubt it has anything to do with spam rejection. If it doesn't bounce, the spammers probably assume it's a good address...I would. Well, anyway, I'm evidently here now...water under the bridge. Did a copy of the minutes make it here to the remailer? I sent a copy to Jim Van Nuland, so any corrections should be sent to him. Gary -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From north at znet.com Thu Oct 19 00:34:38 2000 From: north at znet.com (Dave North) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:08 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Re: References: <39EEA386.7237@aenet.net> Message-ID: <39EEA40C.BCAD5ACD@znet.com> Gary: >>The owner of aenet.net just told me that aenet.com is owned by someone else. I seriously doubt they also have a user named "wb6yru". It's hard to understand why they don't bounce e-mail to non-users.<< I suspect they're in one of those deals where any mail to aenet.com is forwarded to the main account, as it is with many domains that are hosted on isps (or are set up that way just to be so...) So there's no bounce, and if the owner/recipient doesn't decide to "play nice" and say, hey, why are you sending me this stuff" (or even worse has a filter that says "if not to filterman@aenet.com -> /dev/null" and he never sees it) then the problem is never seen. >>Did a copy of the minutes make it here to the remailer?<< Not yet. But we saw them earlier... and I sent back a "looks fine;" probably to the wrong address...? Dave -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jvn at sjpc.org Wed Oct 25 23:10:55 2000 From: jvn at sjpc.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:08 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Re: Hi, Jim! -- Speaker date References: <39F75CA6.F92E803C@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <39F7CAEF.79C3@sjpc.org> Craig D. Wandke wrote: > > Just got back from Space Camp in Huntsville and it was just plain damn > great!!!!!!! I am putting together a slide show, along with slides from > my visit to Goddard in Washington DC, to see moon images, and was > wondering if the club might like for me to show them at a future > meeting. The talk will take 30-45 mins, and I would love to share my > enthusiasm for these two visits! Sounds good! We are open Jan.13, Feb.10, Mar.10, and more. Let me know. We can provide a carosel and overhead (transparency) projectors, screen, and a TV/VCR player. I've enjoyed your previous talks -- this one sounds good, too. Thanks much! -- Jim Van Nuland, Secretary, San Jose Astronomical Association. Jim Van Nuland, Postmaster, sjpc.org JVN's home page SJAA's home page -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From wb6yru at aenet.net Thu Oct 26 00:45:59 2000 From: wb6yru at aenet.net (Gary Mitchell) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:08 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Re: Hi, Jim! -- Speaker date References: <39F75CA6.F92E803C@earthlink.net> <39F7CAEF.79C3@sjpc.org> Message-ID: <39F7E137.6420@aenet.net> Jim Van Nuland wrote: > > Craig D. Wandke wrote: > > > > Just got back from Space Camp in Huntsville and it was just plain damn > > great!!!!!!! I am putting together a slide show, along with slides from > > my visit to Goddard in Washington DC, to see moon images, and was > > wondering if the club might like for me to show them at a future > > meeting. The talk will take 30-45 mins, and I would love to share my > > enthusiasm for these two visits! > > Sounds good! We are open Jan.13, Feb.10, Mar.10, and more. Let me > know. We can provide a carosel and overhead (transparency) projectors, > screen, and a TV/VCR player. > > I've enjoyed your previous talks -- this one sounds good, too. Thanks > much! I'll second that! Gary Mitchell -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jvn at sjpc.org Thu Oct 26 22:48:17 2000 From: jvn at sjpc.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:08 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Re: Hi, Jim! -- Speaker date Jan.13 References: <39F75CA6.F92E803C@earthlink.net> <39F7CAEF.79C3@sjpc.org> <39F87DA3.81DBEFF3@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <39F91721.4B94@sjpc.org> Craig D. Wandke wrote: > > Great...how about January 13! Let me know! It's yours. Let me know about a week before what projectors you'll need. -- Jim Van Nuland, Secretary, San Jose Astronomical Association. Jim Van Nuland, Postmaster, sjpc.org JVN's home page SJAA's home page > Jim Van Nuland wrote: > > > > Craig D. Wandke wrote: > > > > > > Just got back from Space Camp in Huntsville and it was just plain damn > > > great!!!!!!! I am putting together a slide show, along with slides from > > > my visit to Goddard in Washington DC, to see moon images, and was > > > wondering if the club might like for me to show them at a future > > > meeting. The talk will take 30-45 mins, and I would love to share my > > > enthusiasm for these two visits! > > > > Sounds good! We are open Jan.13, Feb.10, Mar.10, and more. Let me > > know. We can provide a carosel and overhead (transparency) projectors, > > screen, and a TV/VCR player. > > > > I've enjoyed your previous talks -- this one sounds good, too. Thanks > > much! -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From north at znet.com Sat Oct 28 09:45:07 2000 From: north at znet.com (Dave North) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:08 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Tonights [non]Rental Of Coe Message-ID: <39FB0291.12C40B29@znet.com> Rather than discuss theory, I thought it would be best to gamble a bit to illustrate why I thought it best to limit pre-reservation of the campsites in Coe (or the Peak) to the months surrounding summer: It's necessary to reserve in advance, and had I gone ahead and done so as the board wished, we would have been out the cost of reservation tonight: ain't nobody going to be observing. So, should the board still be interested in my idea of reserving the interior area at either park, I would like to reiterate my original plan: perhaps April-September? Comments are appreciated. At this time, I do not plan to pursue any months outside that window, but am interested to hear what the rest of y'all think. Dave -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From bill at nineplanets.org Sat Oct 28 14:13:32 2000 From: bill at nineplanets.org (Bill Arnett) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:08 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Tonights [non]Rental Of Coe In-Reply-To: <39FB0291.12C40B29@znet.com> Message-ID: on 00/10/28 9:45 AM, Dave North at north@znet.com wrote: > Rather than discuss theory, I thought it would be best to gamble a bit > to illustrate why I thought it best to limit pre-reservation of the > campsites in Coe (or the Peak) to the months surrounding summer: > > It's necessary to reserve in advance, and had I gone ahead and done so > as the board wished, we would have been out the cost of reservation > tonight: ain't nobody going to be observing. > So, should the board still be interested in my idea of reserving the > interior area at either park, I would like to reiterate my original > plan: perhaps April-September? > Comments are appreciated. At this time, I do not plan to pursue any > months outside that window, but am interested to hear what the rest of > y'all think. I agree with Dave. -- Bill Arnett bill@nineplanets.org Emerald Hills, CA USA http://nineplanets.org/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Mark at IndigoSkies.com Sat Oct 28 14:25:48 2000 From: Mark at IndigoSkies.com (Mark Taylor) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:08 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Tonights [non]Rental Of Coe In-Reply-To: References: <39FB0291.12C40B29@znet.com> Message-ID: <5.0.0.25.0.20001028142505.00b08560@indigoskies.com> Dave's proposal sounds good to me, FWIW. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jvn at sjpc.org Sat Oct 28 21:27:49 2000 From: jvn at sjpc.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:08 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Tonights [non]Rental Of Coe References: <39FB0291.12C40B29@znet.com> Message-ID: <39FBA745.1D7C@sjpc.org> Dave North wrote: [snip] > So, should the board still be interested in my idea of reserving the > interior area at either park, I would like to reiterate my original > plan: perhaps April-September? I still don't get it. Is the idea to move the star party into the campground, away from the city lights? Or to eliminate the traffic coming and going? If the latter, I don't see it as a problem, and I've been at Coe for many years (excepting this summer). In any case, I'm uncomfortable with it. I'd rather not. -- Jim Van Nuland, Secretary, San Jose Astronomical Association. Jim Van Nuland, Postmaster, sjpc.org JVN's home page SJAA's home page -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From wb6yru at aenet.net Sat Oct 28 23:38:21 2000 From: wb6yru at aenet.net (Gary Mitchell) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:08 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Tonights [non]Rental Of Coe References: <39FB0291.12C40B29@znet.com> Message-ID: <39FBC5DD.4121@aenet.net> Dave North wrote: > > Rather than discuss theory, I thought it would be best to gamble a bit > to illustrate why I thought it best to limit pre-reservation of the > campsites in Coe (or the Peak) to the months surrounding summer: > > It's necessary to reserve in advance, and had I gone ahead and done so > as the board wished, we would have been out the cost of reservation > tonight: ain't nobody going to be observing. > So, should the board still be interested in my idea of reserving the > interior area at either park, I would like to reiterate my original > plan: perhaps April-September? > Comments are appreciated. At this time, I do not plan to pursue any > months outside that window, but am interested to hear what the rest of > y'all think. It may not seem like it right now, but in general, October tends to be a better bet than April. I'd say November and April are more comparable. What kind of money are we talking about? Is a refund possible? If we are going to spend money on reserving the site, it might be a good idea to make these star parties just a bit more formal, such as having an advanced sign-up. The idea is to be sure there will be enough of us to make it worth while. I wouldn't want the club to spend, say, $50 and then have only two people show up. A while back, I went to a SJAA star party at Coe and I was the only member there, (plus a couple of visitors). I wouldn't want to see that happen on a reserved night. Gary -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From north at znet.com Sun Oct 29 00:24:25 2000 From: north at znet.com (Dave North) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:08 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Tonights [non]Rental Of Coe References: <39FB0291.12C40B29@znet.com> <39FBC5DD.4121@aenet.net> Message-ID: <39FBD0A9.7010203@znet.com> Gary: >>It may not seem like it right now, but in general, October tends to be a better bet than April.<< Generally I'm suspicious of April too. It's just that for the last few year's we've been lucky, and April dark sky nights have been good, while October has been very iffy. Sure was this year. >>What kind of money are we talking about? Is a refund possible?<< The exact deal is not yet known, but committing a reservation is the idea, and I'd rather not do that when it may very well not pan out. >>If we are going to spend money on reserving the site, it might be a good idea to make these star parties just a bit more formal, such as having an advanced sign-up. The idea is to be sure there will be enough of us to make it worth while. I wouldn't want the club to spend, say, $50 and then have only two people show up.<< It's a spec deal as it stands; but if the board prefers to try to get people to sign up months in advance, we can take that approach. >>A while back, I went to a SJAA star party at Coe and I was the only member there, (plus a couple of visitors). I wouldn't want to see that happen on a reserved night.<< Neither would I. On the other hand, flat paved spots with bathrooms, tables and covered parking might lure a few people in. Hard to say. It's a ... hmm ... bold idea, not a certain one. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From bill at nineplanets.org Sun Oct 29 00:42:41 2000 From: bill at nineplanets.org (Bill Arnett) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:08 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Tonights [non]Rental Of Coe In-Reply-To: <39FBD0A9.7010203@znet.com> Message-ID: on 00/10/29 12:24 AM, Dave North at north@znet.com wrote: > ... bold idea, not a certain one. If we can do this for a reasonable amount of money, I say let's try it for a year and see what happens. -- Bill Arnett bill@nineplanets.org Emerald Hills, CA USA http://nineplanets.org/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jbartolini at juno.com Sun Oct 29 18:44:01 2000 From: jbartolini at juno.com (Jim Bartolini) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:08 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Tonights [non]Rental Of Coe Message-ID: <20001029.184402.-4037181.1.jbartolini@juno.com> > If we can do this for a reasonable amount of money, I say let's try > it for a > year and see what happens. This sounds reasonable to me...... Jim ................. 8-) ================================================================= Jim Bartolini ================================================================= -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From north at znet.com Mon Oct 30 00:43:13 2000 From: north at znet.com (Dave North) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:08 2006 Subject: [BOARD] [Fwd: In town star party idea.] Message-ID: <39FD34A1.3070205@znet.com> Mark has made some proposals for the class this year, and I like them quite a bit (with minor suggestions; basically that the Moon class will need to be on the appropriate 1st quarter Houge night, and that we stick with the program even if things go a little slow at first. Mark agreed, so I'll leave the rest to his original proposal, which I consider both complete and compelling. He did ask: >>What would be the next step? You need to discuss it at a board meeting?<< The answer is technically, no. Funding is not involved save for the flashlight; that's the one thing we would have to handle at a board meeting. The rest is just policy, and we can do it as we see fit (if a unanimous consensus evolves...) The next step is logically to open the issue to the entire Board list, and include Mark (so please hit "Reply All" when making comments). I think we have a provisional class schedule already; has it been committed to the SJAA Pocket Diaries yet? Dave -------- Original Message -------- From: "M. Wagner" Subject: In town star party idea. To: Dave North CC: jvn@sjpc.org, Bill Arnett , mgw@Resource-Intl.com I would like to propose a new format for an SJAA introductory observational astronomy class. This is talking stage only, without commiting. More work would be necessary to bring it to fruition. Mimi and I were drawing in constellation lines on an old copy of Tirion's SA2000 yesterday as a rainy day project. We were using the Night Sky Observers Guide to identify stars by name and number, in order to do the "connect the dots" on the SA2000. I learned parts of constellations I was unfamiliar with, and found it valuable. Additionally, we would read in NSOG some of the mythology and historical references relating to the constellations. I thought this was a wonderful way for kids, through the mythology, and adults, via mythology and historical data, to learn the sky. I always recall Mimi saying to me one night in my backyard how the sky was no longer just a bunch of stars, but instead, it has become a recognizable place where she knows the "pieces"... it was a revelation, and I think it can be for novices as well. And, even in town, it is possible to see some of the deep sky objects, which could be incorporated into a talk (or class). I had heard either through Mike Koop, or just the grapevine, that Dave was interested in combining the Friday night public star parties with a class. I think it is an excellent idea. What I would propose is that once per month on the 3rd Q public night, a person lead a constellation class on the basketball courts. I know that Doug Davis is unable to continue in his role as "instructor." I was the one who suggested to him he do the class, and after he agreed, I suggested to the SJAA that he take on the job. Now, I think there is a way to involve a significant number of experienced amateurs in the project. I would be willing to do this class, outdoors, myself. First, I would ask the SJAA to purchase a green laser pointer. They are not cheap, but they are by far the most effective tool I have seen for the purpose I have in mind. Back to who would do the program... I would like to see maybe three constellations per month taught. There could be one zodiacal constellation each month (how convenient!), and two others that are recognizable from in town, and contain interesting objects and history. Perhaps three people each month could deliver the talk, one person per constellation, in order to minimize the work on any one individual. If the speaker had an interested child, it would be fun to see the child actually do the mythology part of the talk. I believe Mimi would be agreeable to such an arrangement, and maybe others could be found. I think that would appeal to other kids, and be a nice touch to have youth teaching the adults. Why teach mythology at all? Because it is through the stories that people recall the celestial figures, until they are familiar enough with them that they become intuitively recognizable. In addition to using the laser pointer to describe the constellation lines, the public could be encouraged to bring their binoculars, and some of the brighter deep sky objects that would show in binos could also be pointed out using the laser. I have thought that this type of program would also work at star parties at Henry Coe State Park (and others). I am considering offering this type of "program" at Henry Coe each month, and encouraging beginners and kids to attend. Houge Park would be an excellent place to do this. I would have no problem organizing the program. It is an entre into the hobby. After the class, the attendees could look through the telescopes that are available. Any comments or suggestions? -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From bill at nineplanets.org Mon Oct 30 02:23:44 2000 From: bill at nineplanets.org (Bill Arnett) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:08 2006 Subject: [BOARD] [Fwd: In town star party idea.] In-Reply-To: <39FD34A1.3070205@znet.com> Message-ID: on 00/10/30 1:43 AM, Dave North at north@znet.com wrote: >... Funding is not involved save for the > flashlight... We're not talking about "flashlights" here; a green laser pointer is a whole different ballgame. Does it count as financial discussion if I mention that the cheapest green laser I've seen is $235 ? :-) -- Bill Arnett bill@nineplanets.org Emerald Hills, CA USA http://nineplanets.org/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From bill at nineplanets.org Mon Oct 30 13:22:43 2000 From: bill at nineplanets.org (Bill Arnett) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:08 2006 Subject: [BOARD] [Fwd: In town star party idea.] In-Reply-To: <39FD34A1.3070205@znet.com> Message-ID: Two random thoughts: first, while this is a good proposal overall I think learning the constellations is a minor part of astronomy and ought to take a back seat to the "real" stuff. But secondly, I believe we ought to leave the syllabus of the classes pretty much up to the instructor. If Mark is the only volunteer coming forward then I'll support his decision about what to teach. -- Bill Arnett bill@nineplanets.org Emerald Hills, CA USA http://nineplanets.org/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From bartolij at pom-emh1.army.mil Mon Oct 30 13:23:15 2000 From: bartolij at pom-emh1.army.mil (Bartolini, Jim) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:08 2006 Subject: [BOARD] [Fwd: In town star party idea.] Message-ID: <9112B1E00AB4D311A9F3009027AF88B602207306@pom-emh1.army.mil> From: Bill Arnett >>.....while this is a good proposal overall, I think learning the constellations >>is a minor part of astronomy and ought to take a back seat to the "real" >>stuff....... Well.....just what do you consider to be the "real" stuff, Bill? Jim ........... :-) ================================================= Jim Bartolini ================================================= -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From bill at nineplanets.org Mon Oct 30 13:30:58 2000 From: bill at nineplanets.org (Bill Arnett) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:08 2006 Subject: [BOARD] [Fwd: In town star party idea.] In-Reply-To: <9112B1E00AB4D311A9F3009027AF88B602207306@pom-emh1.army.mil> Message-ID: on 00/10/30 1:23 PM, Bartolini, Jim at bartolij@pom-emh1.army.mil wrote: > From: Bill Arnett > >>> .....while this is a good proposal overall, I think learning the > constellations >>> is a minor part of astronomy and ought to take a back seat to the "real" >>> stuff....... > > Well.....just what do you consider to be the "real" stuff, Bill? A moot point since I'm not teaching the class :-) -- Bill Arnett bill@nineplanets.org Emerald Hills, CA USA http://nineplanets.org/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From bartolij at pom-emh1.army.mil Mon Oct 30 13:29:03 2000 From: bartolij at pom-emh1.army.mil (Bartolini, Jim) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:08 2006 Subject: [BOARD] [Fwd: In town star party idea.] Message-ID: <9112B1E00AB4D311A9F3009027AF88B602207336@pom-emh1.army.mil> From: Bill Arnett >>A moot point since I'm not teaching the class :-) Well, you opened the door, Bill. Care to step through it? Jim ........... :-) ================================================= Jim Bartolini ================================================= -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From resource at Resource-Intl.com Mon Oct 30 13:52:45 2000 From: resource at Resource-Intl.com (M. Wagner) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:08 2006 Subject: [BOARD] [Fwd: In town star party idea.] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Bill Arnett wrote: > Two random thoughts: first, while this is a good proposal overall I think > learning the constellations is a minor part of astronomy and ought to take a > back seat to the "real" stuff. > > But secondly, I believe we ought to leave the syllabus of the classes pretty > much up to the instructor. If Mark is the only volunteer coming forward > then I'll support his decision about what to teach. > A quick reply. My idea is geared toward introductory observational astronomy. It is quite similar to what Jack Zeiders and Jack Peterson taught at the SJAA for many years, except that it would be done outside, with real stars. If there is some other more important content that would be better suited to a class, I am interested in knowing what it is, and if it could be incorporated, I'd support doing so. I also do not intend to be the only volunteer, I will be actively soliciting others to participate, as I stated in my original e-mail that Dave passed along to the SJAA board of directors. I will begin by soliciting Bill Arnett as a participant. I'm very confident Bill could deliver a well prepared and entertaining 10 to 20 minute presentation. Can I pencil you in, Bill? Just one constellation. Mark Wagner mgw@resource-intl.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From akkana at netscape.com Mon Oct 30 14:01:18 2000 From: akkana at netscape.com (Akkana Peck) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:08 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Tonights [non]Rental Of Coe In-Reply-To: <39FBA745.1D7C@sjpc.org>; from jvn@sjpc.org on Sat, Oct 28, 2000 at 09:27:49PM -0700 References: <39FB0291.12C40B29@znet.com> <39FBA745.1D7C@sjpc.org> Message-ID: <20001030140118.D9993@netscape.com> > Dave North wrote: > > So, should the board still be interested in my idea of reserving the > > interior area at either park, I would like to reiterate my original > > plan: perhaps April-September? Jim Van Nuland wrote: > I still don't get it. Is the idea to move the star party into the > campground, away from the city lights? > > Or to eliminate the traffic coming and going? I think it's to get paved spaces (so mirrors don't get so dusty, there's a better surface for dobs, and it doesn't get muddy when wet). The nearby "facilities" are a nice feature, too. It's not that big a deal, but I still think it's a fun idea to pursue. April might be dangerous, but May-Sept certainly seems worth trying; and April's fine if Dave and the rest of the board want to go for that as well; it's not that much money at risk if it turns out cloudy, is it? ...Akkana -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From akkana at netscape.com Mon Oct 30 15:38:08 2000 From: akkana at netscape.com (Akkana Peck) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:08 2006 Subject: [BOARD] [Fwd: In town star party idea.] In-Reply-To: ; from resource@Resource-Intl.com on Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 01:52:45PM -0800 References: Message-ID: <20001030153808.F9993@netscape.com> > On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Bill Arnett wrote: > > Two random thoughts: first, while this is a good proposal overall I think > > learning the constellations is a minor part of astronomy and ought to take a > > back seat to the "real" stuff. I'm not so sure that constellation identification isn't part of "the real stuff" of astronomy. Recognizing parts of the sky is certainly one of the most rewarding aspects of astronomy, and one that sticks with you forever. M. Wagner wrote: > A quick reply. My idea is geared toward introductory observational > astronomy. It is quite similar to what Jack Zeiders and Jack Peterson > taught at the SJAA for many years, except that it would be done outside, > with real stars. ... which makes it much better and much more memorable. I remember my parents telling me when I was very young about the three stars of Orion's belt, and thinking how there must be millions of combinations of three stars in a line, and how would I tell those three from any of the others. Seeing it in person is a whole different experience, and you don't forget after that. I like Mark's idea, and think that pointing out constellations would be an excellent preamble to more advanced classes as well as being a reasonable topic for an early class all by itself. For more advanced classes, you can make it even better by pointing out the constellation and explaining where in it one can find objects of interest, then letting the students try for themselves. > I also do not intend to be the only > volunteer, I will be actively soliciting others to participate, as I I expect that when/if I teach a class, it will be oriented toward either lunar/planetary stuff, or sketching. Even so, I wouldn't have any objection to starting the outdoor portion of the class with a brief constellation tour. I probably wouldn't want to pack a lot of history and mythology into it if the class topic really had nothing to do with the constellation, just to avoid overwhelming the students with too many topics in one evening; I'd probably want to feature a zodiacal constellation containing a planet, or (in a sketching class) a constellation featuring something bright that would be a good target for deep-sky sketching (not many such objects, from Houge, though). Re the expensive green lasers: a big maglight (the kind that takes 4 D cells) also makes a very good sky pointer. Not as cool or high-tech as a green laser, certainly, but it creates a beam that can be seen for some distance. Of course, you have to be careful where you wave lights like that at a star party. :-) ...Akkana -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From resource at Resource-Intl.com Mon Oct 30 16:12:01 2000 From: resource at Resource-Intl.com (M. Wagner) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:08 2006 Subject: [BOARD] [Fwd: In town star party idea.] In-Reply-To: <20001030153808.F9993@netscape.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Akkana Peck wrote: > I expect that when/if I teach a class, it will be oriented toward > either lunar/planetary stuff, or sketching. Even so, I wouldn't Well, that's a class I'd go to. One by Dave on the moon too (that's a long trip). > Re the expensive green lasers: a big maglight (the kind that takes 4 > D cells) also makes a very good sky pointer. Not as cool or > high-tech as a green laser, certainly, but it creates a beam that > can be seen for some distance. Of course, you have to be careful > where you wave lights like that at a star party. :-) I used a 6-cell maglite to show my son Daniel the constellations Pegasus and Andromeda, and was able to guide him to objects with him at the control of my 10" Dob. Never seem him move a telescope before. We both had a great time, which can be rare with teens. Anway, the maglite might bother people set up on the sidewalk using telescopes on 3rd Q at Houge. I'd considered that, but would rather use something a bit less obtrusive. Thanks for the support, Mark Wagner mgw@resource-intl.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jvn at sjpc.org Mon Oct 30 19:19:06 2000 From: jvn at sjpc.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:08 2006 Subject: [BOARD] [Fwd: In town star party idea.] References: Message-ID: <39FE3A2A.3673@sjpc.org> M. Wagner wrote: [snip Akkanna's suggestion of large maglight] > I used a 6-cell maglite to show my son Daniel the constellations Pegasus > and Andromeda, and was able to guide him to objects with him at the > control of my 10" Dob. Never seem him move a telescope before. We both > had a great time, which can be rare with teens. > > Anway, the maglite might bother people set up on the sidewalk using > telescopes on 3rd Q at Houge. I recall seeing a big flashlight used (by Zeiders, I think) as a pointer. He had a cardboard sleeve extending perhaps 6 inches past the end, and it very effectively blocked any stray light. Of course he was very careful to push the button only when the light was aimed upward. -- Jim Van Nuland, Secretary, San Jose Astronomical Association. Jim Van Nuland, Postmaster, sjpc.org JVN's home page SJAA's home page -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From resource at Resource-Intl.com Mon Oct 30 20:02:49 2000 From: resource at Resource-Intl.com (M. Wagner) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:08 2006 Subject: [BOARD] [Fwd: In town star party idea.] In-Reply-To: <39FE3A2A.3673@sjpc.org> Message-ID: On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Jim Van Nuland wrote: > I recall seeing a big flashlight used (by Zeiders, I think) as a > pointer. He had a cardboard sleeve extending perhaps 6 inches past the > end, and it very effectively blocked any stray light. Of course he was > very careful to push the button only when the light was aimed upward. I really don't have any preference, as long as it is not a bother the the others around. The green laser is a hands down winner though. If it is not something the club can put in their budget, and I agree it is costly, I understand. I'll just go for the next best tool (probably a big maglite). Mark Wagner mgw@resource-intl.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From bill at nineplanets.org Mon Oct 30 21:40:14 2000 From: bill at nineplanets.org (Bill Arnett) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:08 2006 Subject: [BOARD] [Fwd: In town star party idea.] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: on 00/10/30 8:02 PM, M. Wagner at resource@Resource-Intl.com wrote: >... The green laser is a hands down winner though... I'm of two minds on this one, too. One the one hand, a green laser really would be cool. And it would no doubt be a better tool for the job. OTOH, it might be so cool that everyone would pay more attention to the laser than what it's pointing at :-) -- Bill Arnett bill@nineplanets.org Emerald Hills, CA USA http://nineplanets.org/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jane at whiteoaks.com Mon Oct 30 23:40:36 2000 From: jane at whiteoaks.com (Jane Houston Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:08 2006 Subject: [BOARD] [Fwd: In town star party idea.] References: <20001030153808.F9993@netscape.com> Message-ID: <39FE7774.C15F28D9@whiteoaks.com> Akkana Peck wrote: > I expect that when/if I teach a class, it will be oriented toward > either lunar/planetary stuff, or sketching. Even so, I wouldn't > have any objection to starting the outdoor portion of the class with > a brief constellation tour. I probably wouldn't want to pack a lot > of history and mythology into it if the class topic really had > nothing to do with the constellation, just to avoid overwhelming > the students with too many topics in one evening; I'd probably want > to feature a zodiacal constellation containing a planet, or (in a > sketching class) a constellation featuring something bright that > would be a good target for deep-sky sketching (not many such > objects, from Houge, though). I'm interested in sketching as a class and would be interested in doing the program with Akkana. In addition, I have the $100 set of constellation slides the ASP puts out They have the star field on the left and the star map for that field on the right. I showed these at Slide and Equipment night last year. I also include a couple in the FPOA presentations - just a couple showing the constellations of particular interest that evening. When it comes time for the classes, they can be borrowed by the SJAA or the SJAA could buy a set. http://www.aspsky.org/catalog_new/aslists/as289l.html. Jane -- Jane Houston Jones San Rafael, CA jane@whiteoaks.com http://www.whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From wb6yru at aenet.net Tue Oct 31 00:57:21 2000 From: wb6yru at aenet.net (Gary Mitchell) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:08 2006 Subject: [BOARD] [Fwd: In town star party idea.] References: Message-ID: <39FE8971.14E5@aenet.net> Bill Arnett wrote: > > on 00/10/30 1:43 AM, Dave North at north@znet.com wrote: > > >... Funding is not involved save for the > > flashlight... > > We're not talking about "flashlights" here; a green laser pointer is a whole > different ballgame. Does it count as financial discussion if I mention that > the cheapest green laser I've seen is $235 ? :-) That seems like a lot for doing what many of us have done with a shielded Maglight...at just a few percent of the cost. Although the laser would be a more precise pointer, Maglights can be focused well enough for the job. You have to be near it anyway to see what's being pointed at. Some others have mentioned a six D cell Maglight. You don't want so much light that it washes things out. Even on a relatively clear night, that would be a pretty bright pointer. Smaller Maglights works fine. Gary -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From wb6yru at aenet.net Tue Oct 31 00:57:44 2000 From: wb6yru at aenet.net (Gary Mitchell) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:08 2006 Subject: [BOARD] [Fwd: In town star party idea.] References: <39FD34A1.3070205@znet.com> Message-ID: <39FE8988.6035@aenet.net> Dave North wrote: > [snip] > If the speaker had an interested child, it would be fun to > see the child actually do the mythology part of the talk. I believe > Mimi would be agreeable to such an arrangement, and maybe others could > be found. I think that would appeal to other kids, and be a nice touch > to have youth teaching the adults. The whole idea sounds good...but I have reservations about that last bit. Gary -------------------------------------------------------------------------- sjaaboard list: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Changes made only by list administrator: mojo@whiteoaks.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From wb6yru at aenet.net Tue Oct 31 00:58:36 2000 From: wb6yru at aenet.net (Gary Mitchell) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:08 2006 Subject: [BOARD] Tonights [non]Rental Of Coe References: <20001029.184402.-4037181.1.jbartolini@juno.com> Message-ID: <39FE89BC.6078@aenet.net> Jim Bartolini wrote: > > > If we can do this for a reasonable amount of money, I say let's try > > it for a > > year and see what happens. > > This sounds reasonable to me...... > > Jim ................. 8-) Me too--in principle. But first, I think we need to define what would be considered a "reasonable amount." 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