From jvn at svpal.org Sun Jul 1 11:19:43 2001 From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:12 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] I'll be away on vacation References: <9112B1E00AB4D311A9F3009027AF88B603FB5C8A@pom-emh1.army.mil> <3B3D889E.3B9B@aenet.net> Message-ID: <3B3F69BF.5472@svpal.org> Gary Mitchell wrote: [snip] > I plan to be there, but it looks like we may not have > a quorum. I'll be there (God willing and the crick don't rise). My tally has three absent, 4 confirmed yes, and one uncertain (Bill O'Sh is 50/50). Koop yet to check in. -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association JVN's home page From jvn at svpal.org Sun Jul 1 11:40:23 2001 From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:12 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Club stuff References: <9112B1E00AB4D311A9F3009027AF88B603FB5C8A@pom-emh1.army.mil> <3B3D889E.3B9B@aenet.net> <3B3F69BF.5472@svpal.org> Message-ID: <3B3F6E97.59AC@svpal.org> Mike, others, I have the overhead projector here, and the green laser pointer, in addition to the big screen that I usually store. The laser worked very well Friday for the girls's star talk, which would have gone better if the haze had not hidden the constellations. Still, they were paying attention, and the views of the Moon and Mars were satisfying. The pointer draws 250 mA -- I'm amazed that the designer used those tiny AAA batteries! With that current draw, I would have opted for AA or better, C-size. Its output is 5. mW, compared to the usual 0.5 mW for the red classroom pointers. Be careful with this fellow! Clear Skies! -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association JVN's home page From wb6yru at aenet.net Mon Jul 2 00:14:27 2001 From: wb6yru at aenet.net (Gary Mitchell) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:12 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Club stuff References: <9112B1E00AB4D311A9F3009027AF88B603FB5C8A@pom-emh1.army.mil> <3B3D889E.3B9B@aenet.net> <3B3F69BF.5472@svpal.org> <3B3F6E97.59AC@svpal.org> Message-ID: <3B401F53.596E@aenet.net> Jim Van Nuland wrote: > The pointer draws 250 mA -- I'm amazed that the designer used those > tiny AAA batteries! With that current draw, I would have opted for AA > or better, C-size. So would I. On the other hand, no doubt they wanted it to be light and small. Also, it isn't intended to be used like a flashlight, just quick bursts here and there. > Its output is 5. mW, compared to the usual 0.5 mW > for the red classroom pointers. Be careful with this fellow! That's a very good point, Jim! While 5 mW certainly isn't deadly, it may be enough to cause eye problems. At the very least it would be uncomfortable and wipe out the victim's night adaptation. Just to be safe, a good rule of thumb might be to treat it like a small weapon...never point it at anything you don't intend to shoot. Gary From jvn at svpal.org Mon Jul 2 00:37:20 2001 From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:12 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Club stuff References: <9112B1E00AB4D311A9F3009027AF88B603FB5C8A@pom-emh1.army.mil> <3B3D889E.3B9B@aenet.net> <3B3F69BF.5472@svpal.org> <3B3F6E97.59AC@svpal.org> <3B401F53.596E@aenet.net> Message-ID: <3B4024B0.3D58@svpal.org> Gary Mitchell wrote: > While 5 mW certainly isn't > deadly, it may be enough to cause eye problems. At the very > least it would be uncomfortable and wipe out the victim's night > adaptation. > > Just to be safe, a good rule of thumb might be to treat it like > a small weapon...never point it at anything you don't intend to > shoot. Good rule. My technique is to hold it pointed upward, and only then push the button and bring it down to the target. At Houge I held it near my face, partly to steady it, and mostly to be well above the heads of my customers. Though it worked well on Friday, I was showing it to my wife tonight, and she didn't see the light/line unless she was standing very close to me. Clearer air, or perhaps we were not well enough dark-adapted. -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association JVN's home page From bill at nineplanets.org Mon Jul 2 00:41:57 2001 From: bill at nineplanets.org (Bill Arnett) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:12 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Club stuff In-Reply-To: <3B401F53.596E@aenet.net> Message-ID: <200107020742.AAA26535@albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net> On Monday, July 2, 2001, at 12:14 AM, Gary Mitchell wrote: > ... While 5 mW certainly isn't > deadly, it may be enough to cause eye problems. At the very > least it would be uncomfortable and wipe out the victim's night > adaptation. Right. There's a warning label on the thing. IIRC, it advises you not to look directly into the beam :-) My understanding is that if the beam were to enter your eye it would be a little painful and certainly would cause a blink reflex. But no permanent damage. > Just to be safe, a good rule of thumb might be to treat it like > a small weapon...never point it at anything you don't intend to > shoot. Right. If you were to wave it around in a crowd the probability of the beam actually entering someone's eye would be pretty small; it's a very small beam, after all, and it would have to hit someone's eye exactly. But there's no sense in taking a chance. I think the greatest risk with these things is that someone might *deliberately* look into the beam or explicitly try to aim it at someone else's eye. I think the main safety precaution is to make sure it stays out of the hands of children. -- Bill Arnett bill@nineplanets.org Redwood City, CA USA http://nineplanets.org/ 37 27 38 N 122 16 11 W From north at znet.com Mon Jul 2 09:57:32 2001 From: north at znet.com (Dave North) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:12 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Club stuff In-Reply-To: <3B4024B0.3D58@svpal.org> Message-ID: <200107021657.f62GvX218011@sj.znet.com> Jim: > Though it worked well on Friday, I was showing it to my wife tonight, > and she didn't see the light/line unless she was standing very close to > me. Clearer air, or perhaps we were not well enough dark-adapted. It's not real obvious to me why it doesn't seem to work some times. At first I thought it was clear air, but I really think it was pretty clear the first time I saw it work well. The first time we used it, it didn't work all that great, and I thought that was a bit cloudy! I'll bet Koop has a better read on this... Dave From bhavner at ricochet.net Mon Jul 2 18:23:01 2001 From: bhavner at ricochet.net (Bob & Brenda Havner) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:12 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Club stuff References: <9112B1E00AB4D311A9F3009027AF88B603FB5C8A@pom-emh1.army.mil> <3B3D889E.3B9B@aenet.net> <3B3F69BF.5472@svpal.org> <3B3F6E97.59AC@svpal.org> Message-ID: <002501c1035e$b975d180$fb0a703f@havner> > I have the overhead projector here, and the green laser pointer, in > addition to the big screen that I usually store. Jim, Please bring the projector and screen to the 7/6 meeting. Thanks Bob Havner bhavner@ricochet.net From akkana at shallowsky.com Mon Jul 2 17:07:35 2001 From: akkana at shallowsky.com (Akkana) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:12 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Club stuff In-Reply-To: <200107020742.AAA26535@albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net>; from bill@nineplanets.org on Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 12:41:57AM -0700 References: <3B401F53.596E@aenet.net> <200107020742.AAA26535@albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20010702170735.B43489@shallowsky.com> Bill Arnett writes: > Right. If you were to wave it around in a crowd the probability of the > beam actually entering someone's eye would be pretty small; it's a very > small beam, after all, and it would have to hit someone's eye exactly. I've been beamed in the eye quite a few times with laser pointers that people were using at talks or just horsing around outside. It's not as hard as you think, especially when there's a big crowd of people or if there are any shiny objects nearby (like car mirrors). OTOH, in a situation like that the exposure is so small that not going to be enough to worry about. I certainly don't worry about it with the red laser pointers. But it's best not to swing lasers around when they're on, since you never know whether someone at a star party might worry about it whether it's really dangerous or not. ...Akkana From bhavner at ricochet.net Mon Jul 2 17:39:09 2001 From: bhavner at ricochet.net (Bob & Brenda Havner) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:12 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Club stuff References: <9112B1E00AB4D311A9F3009027AF88B603FB5C8A@pom-emh1.army.mil> <3B3D889E.3B9B@aenet.net> <3B3F69BF.5472@svpal.org> <3B3F6E97.59AC@svpal.org> Message-ID: <004301c10359$459a5740$bf05703f@havner> Jim, Please bring the overhead and screen as we will need them at Saturdays meeting. Bob Havner bhavner@ricochet.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Van Nuland" To: Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 11:40 AM Subject: [SJAABoard] Club stuff > Mike, others, > > I have the overhead projector here, and the green laser pointer, in > addition to the big screen that I usually store. > > The laser worked very well Friday for the girls's star talk, which > would have gone better if the haze had not hidden the constellations. > Still, they were paying attention, and the views of the Moon and Mars > were satisfying. > > The pointer draws 250 mA -- I'm amazed that the designer used those > tiny AAA batteries! With that current draw, I would have opted for AA > or better, C-size. Its output is 5. mW, compared to the usual 0.5 mW > for the red classroom pointers. Be careful with this fellow! > > Clear Skies! > -- > Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association > JVN's home page > > _______________________________________________ > SJAABoard mailing list > SJAABoard@sjaa.net > http://www.sjaa.net/mailman/listinfo/sjaaboard > From Sol.Man at IndigoSkies.com Tue Jul 3 10:42:58 2001 From: Sol.Man at IndigoSkies.com (Mark Taylor) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:12 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Club stuff In-Reply-To: <20010702170735.B43489@shallowsky.com> References: <200107020742.AAA26535@albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <3B401F53.596E@aenet.net> <200107020742.AAA26535@albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010703104147.00ad2e90@indigoskies.com> At 05:07 PM 7/2/2001, Akkana wrote: >But it's best not to swing lasers around when they're on... Unless it's a light sabre! ;-) From jvn at svpal.org Fri Jul 6 15:05:38 2001 From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:12 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Calendar, September Message-ID: <3B463632.2CF8@svpal.org> Hi, All, Here's what I have for September. September 8 -s- General Meeting: Slide & Equipment night 14 -f- Houge Park star party Sset 7:17 pm, 8% moon rise 4:31 am 15 -s- Coe and Peak star party Sset 7:13 pm, 3% moon rise 5:45 am. 28 -f- Astronomy Class X, 7:30 pm, hall, Houge Park John Gleason on Astrophotography 28 -f- Houge Park star party Sset 6:55 pm, 90% moon sets 4:11 am Speaker are set thru November. Is December to be a Christmas special? School events: Oct.16, pending Oct.19, pending Since schools are not in session, the above dates will probably not be finalized until September. Clear Skies! -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association JVN's home page From jvn at svpal.org Mon Jul 9 16:55:38 2001 From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:12 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Board Minutes for June Message-ID: <3B4A447A.5DF1@svpal.org> Notes by Steve Nelson and Jim Van Nuland. Convened June 2, 2001 at 6:43 pm by board president Mike Koop. Attending: JVN, Mitchell, O'Shaughnessy, Bartolini, Mancuso, Koop, Havner. Excused: Arnett. Absent: Taylor. Treasury: $8913.42 Checking 391.91 Savings / A.B.Gregory Fund 2755.61 Money Market / Observatory Fund Gary asks for permission to set up an auto-pay for the Hot Line. Agreed. Mike Koop's motion approved to donate $100 to Cosmos Education, an educational effort in Africa, headed by Kevin Hand of Stanford. Houge Park sprinkler problem discussed. Turn on at 11:15 pm. Appears to be a yearly problem and now under control of park's ground people. Mike Koop report. Cal-Star: Flyers distributed at RTMC. About 100 were made. Group cost $32 for 3 nights. Discussion on rules touched on several topics: dark, late arrives in particular. Rules are desired like Texas Star Party. Mike will distribute a preliminary page. Final design of a 1 sheet program and rules (single folded 8.5 x 11") will be done from that. Vendors or not? Not. BYO Barbecue. SJAA can rent a large unit from the park service. S. Nelson volunteered to tend fire and coordinate. Publicity: JVN suggests using AANC Contact List. Mark W. to be responsible for So. CA. clubs. Memberships: Contributing members and complementary members discussed. JVN noted that teachers have been getting complementary newsletters, but some teacher addresses are stale and need purging. $750 for community outreach could be used to subsidize that expense for teachers, schools, PTAs etc. Slide sets for constellations were agreed as a public class expense - but first Bill will suggest a specific set. Could also purchase software. Evergreen College: Coming star party was mentioned. Their Observatory project is about 9 months away from groundbreaking. Already have received some equipment. Questions: What can we do to help? We decide to let Jeff ask us. Do we need a contract with EVC? Will we have access if Jeff is away? Do we need special insurance? (no answers) Adjourned 7:50 pm. -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association JVN's home page From north at znet.com Mon Jul 9 17:09:31 2001 From: north at znet.com (Dave North) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:12 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Board Minutes for June References: <3B4A447A.5DF1@svpal.org> Message-ID: <3B4A47B1.5CD85BB6@znet.com> >>JVN noted that teachers have been getting complementary newsletters, but some teacher addresses are stale and need purging.<< Yes! Any idea which ones? Dave From jane at whiteoaks.com Mon Jul 9 17:25:20 2001 From: jane at whiteoaks.com (Jane Houston Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:12 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Use of Coe Message-ID: <3B4A4B70.B8FCE007@whiteoaks.com> I got a request for information today from Nancy Freitas (and SJAA member I think?) who wants to have a potluck and star party at Henry Coe State Park September 15 or 22. This event is for TPSBAVN - The Planetary Society Bay Area Volunteer Network. They have fewer telescopes than words in their name, so they want to come and look through other peoples telescopes and eat. Anyway, 9/15 is the Calstar weekend, and so I am wondering about the SJAA and Coe that weekend. Would there likely be people there. Am I correct that the SJAA events are listed but not exactly hosted? I want to guide her to the right people. I might suggest she post her request on the TAC list. Should she talk to a ranger about a group potluck/observing session? If so what is the number? I'd be tempted to suggest SW lot at Fremont Peak, with picnic tables and a big telescope nearby to look through. Do any of you have any suggestions for those two dates? Jane -- Jane Houston Jones San Rafael, CA jane@whiteoaks.com http://www.whiteoaks.com From Sol.Man at IndigoSkies.com Mon Jul 9 17:41:13 2001 From: Sol.Man at IndigoSkies.com (Mark Taylor) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:12 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Board Minutes for June In-Reply-To: <3B4A447A.5DF1@svpal.org> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010709193707.00b1fe48@indigoskies.com> At 06:55 PM 7/9/2001, Jim Van Nuland wrote: >Notes by Steve Nelson and Jim Van Nuland. > >Convened June 2, 2001 at 6:43 pm by board president Mike Koop. > >Attending: JVN, Mitchell, O'Shaughnessy, Bartolini, Mancuso, Koop, > Havner. Excused: Arnett. Absent: Taylor. Er.... At 06:55 PM 6/28/2001, Mark Taylor wrote: >... >I'm going to be away on vacation from 7/2 through 7/17, and will therefore >miss the general meeting on the 7th. >... So far "deep Missouri" has been hot, humid, dark, and steady. The katydids are having a major breeding season -- the sound is deafening at night. And the lightening bugs are a major source of light pollution ;-) Regards, Mark From jvn at svpal.org Mon Jul 9 23:23:20 2001 From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:12 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Board Minutes for June References: <3B4A447A.5DF1@svpal.org> <3B4A47B1.5CD85BB6@znet.com> Message-ID: <3B4A9F58.690D@svpal.org> Dave North wrote: > > >>JVN noted that teachers have been getting complementary newsletters, > but some teacher addresses are stale and need purging.<< > > Yes! Any idea which ones? I know the one going to Empire School is dead, but I'll have to do some checking regarding the others. I suspect most of them. If we haven't been to the school for a few years, I'd drop the newsletter. Or if the teacher is now at another school. Etc. -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association JVN's home page From jvn at svpal.org Mon Jul 9 22:43:58 2001 From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:12 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Board Minutes for June References: <5.1.0.14.0.20010709193707.00b1fe48@indigoskies.com> Message-ID: <3B4A961E.59AF@svpal.org> Mark Taylor wrote: > > At 06:55 PM 7/9/2001, Jim Van Nuland wrote: > >Notes by Steve Nelson and Jim Van Nuland. > > > >Convened June 2, 2001 at 6:43 pm by board president Mike Koop. > > > >Attending: JVN, Mitchell, O'Shaughnessy, Bartolini, Mancuso, Koop, > > Havner. Excused: Arnett. Absent: Taylor. > > Er.... > > At 06:55 PM 6/28/2001, Mark Taylor wrote:> >... > >I'm going to be away on vacation from 7/2 through 7/17, and will therefore Er ... the subject Minutes are a month old -- June, not July. I correctly recorded the excuseees for the July meeting. For June, nobody recalled whether you'd pre-announced. > So far "deep Missouri" has been hot, humid, dark, and steady. The katydids > are having a major breeding season -- the sound is deafening at night. And > the lightening bugs are a major source of light pollution ;-) Coming from Wisconsin, I can relate to the hot and humid, as well as the noise, but our lightning bugs were not so bad as that! My wife bought a bumper sticker that said "Escape to Wisconsin", but my bumper was a little short, so I snipped out just one small word.... -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association JVN's home page From Sol.Man at IndigoSkies.com Tue Jul 10 07:18:47 2001 From: Sol.Man at IndigoSkies.com (Mark Taylor) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:12 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Board Minutes for June In-Reply-To: <3B4A961E.59AF@svpal.org> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20010709193707.00b1fe48@indigoskies.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20010710091706.030e60f0@indigoskies.com> At 12:43 AM 7/10/2001, Jim Van Nuland wrote: > Er ... the subject Minutes are a month old -- June, not July. Dang, sorry. Silly me :-0 From north at znet.com Tue Jul 10 08:16:42 2001 From: north at znet.com (Dave North) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:12 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Board Minutes for June References: <3B4A447A.5DF1@svpal.org> <3B4A47B1.5CD85BB6@znet.com> <3B4A9F58.690D@svpal.org> Message-ID: <3B4B1C59.21FAF9F1@znet.com> jvn: >> I know the one going to Empire School is dead<< Done! Dave From wb6yru at aenet.net Mon Jul 9 18:06:25 2001 From: wb6yru at aenet.net (Gary Mitchell) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:13 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Board Minutes for June References: <3B4A447A.5DF1@svpal.org> <3B4A47B1.5CD85BB6@znet.com> Message-ID: <3B4A5511.B02@aenet.net> Dave North wrote: > > >>JVN noted that teachers have been getting complementary newsletters, > but some teacher addresses are stale and need purging.<< > > Yes! Any idea which ones? Isn't there a place in the database for the date when each was entered? If not, there should be. That would help determine whether any given entry is due for review or whatever. Gary From north at znet.com Tue Jul 10 23:12:37 2001 From: north at znet.com (Dave North) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:13 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Board Minutes for June References: <3B4A447A.5DF1@svpal.org> <3B4A47B1.5CD85BB6@znet.com> <3B4A5511.B02@aenet.net> Message-ID: <3B4BEE4A.B2C54107@znet.com> >>Isn't there a place in the database for the date when each was entered?<< Nope. >>If not, there should be.<< Wouldn't have done any good. I haven't entered any new freebies since I took over. That has been, what, five years? Prior, there were no records. dave From jvn at svpal.org Tue Jul 10 23:33:41 2001 From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:13 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Use of Coe References: <3B4A4B70.B8FCE007@whiteoaks.com> Message-ID: <3B4BF345.653B@svpal.org> Jane Houston Jones wrote: > I got a request for information today from Nancy Freitas (and SJAA > member I think?) Correct. > who wants to have a potluck and star party at Henry Coe > State Park September 15 or 22. [snip] Anyway, 9/15 is the Calstar > weekend, and so I am wondering about the SJAA and Coe that weekend. > Would there likely be people there. I'd recommend the 22nd, as there'll be a 5-day moon to show to the beginners. As you suspect, the 15th is likely to be lightly attended. > Am I correct that the SJAA events are listed but not exactly hosted? Correct. We had not listed Coe events for some time, but in the last year or more, TAC and others have been coming to Coe, so there's usually somebody there. The Coe sky is not ideal, but the Peak has its problems too. We announce the Coe and Peak star parties with the term "no-host". > I want to guide her to the right people. I might suggest she post her > request on the TAC list. Should she talk to a ranger about a group > potluck/observing session? It's probably necessary to call for picnic arrangements. I don't know what's available. SJAA is scheduled on the 15th. If the 22nd is used, a call to the Ranger is appropriate. 408-779-2728 days. The gate parking lot could be full of horse trailers, boats, etc. Most TACos will be at CalStar, I expect, on the 15th, and some may be at Coe on the 22nd. Did she say how many people will be there? The overflow lot has no picnic tables nor fire pits. Perhaps the main campground would be needed for the picnic, then car-pool to the overflow lot about sunset at 7 pm. It's been several years since I've been near the campground, but as I remember each site has a table and fireplace, and some are close together for group use. > suggest SW lot at Fremont Peak, with picnic tables and a big telescope > nearby to look through. Both Saturdays are FPOA public nights, according to my notes. I don't know much about picnic site availability. -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association JVN's home page From jane at whiteoaks.com Wed Jul 11 09:41:03 2001 From: jane at whiteoaks.com (Jane Houston Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:13 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Use of Coe References: <3B4A4B70.B8FCE007@whiteoaks.com> <3B4BF345.653B@svpal.org> Message-ID: <3B4C819F.657716AE@whiteoaks.com> Thanks, Jim, I'll pass this info on to Nancy. Jane Jim Van Nuland wrote: > Jane Houston Jones wrote: > > I got a request for information today from Nancy Freitas (and SJAA > > member I think?) > > Correct. > > > who wants to have a potluck and star party at Henry Coe > > State Park September 15 or 22. [snip] Anyway, 9/15 is the Calstar > > weekend, and so I am wondering about the SJAA and Coe that weekend. > > Would there likely be people there. > > I'd recommend the 22nd, as there'll be a 5-day moon to show to the > beginners. As you suspect, the 15th is likely to be lightly attended. > > > Am I correct that the SJAA events are listed but not exactly hosted? > > Correct. We had not listed Coe events for some time, but in the last > year or more, TAC and others have been coming to Coe, so there's usually > somebody there. The Coe sky is not ideal, but the Peak has its problems > too. We announce the Coe and Peak star parties with the term > "no-host". > > > > I want to guide her to the right people. I might suggest she post her > > request on the TAC list. Should she talk to a ranger about a group > > potluck/observing session? > > It's probably necessary to call for picnic arrangements. I don't know > what's available. > > SJAA is scheduled on the 15th. If the 22nd is used, a call to the > Ranger is appropriate. 408-779-2728 days. The gate parking lot could > be full of horse trailers, boats, etc. Most TACos will be at CalStar, I > expect, on the 15th, and some may be at Coe on the 22nd. > > Did she say how many people will be there? The overflow lot has no > picnic tables nor fire pits. Perhaps the main campground would be > needed for the picnic, then car-pool to the overflow lot about sunset at > 7 pm. It's been several years since I've been near the campground, but > as I remember each site has a table and fireplace, and some are close > together for group use. > > > suggest SW lot at Fremont Peak, with picnic tables and a big telescope > > nearby to look through. > > Both Saturdays are FPOA public nights, according to my notes. I don't > know much about picnic site availability. > > -- > Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association > JVN's home page > > _______________________________________________ > SJAABoard mailing list > SJAABoard@sjaa.net > http://www.sjaa.net/mailman/listinfo/sjaaboard -- Jane Houston Jones San Rafael, CA jane@whiteoaks.com http://www.whiteoaks.com From north at znet.com Wed Jul 11 18:43:40 2001 From: north at znet.com (Dave North) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:13 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Free Ephemeris Deliveries Message-ID: <3B4D008C.87247A2D@znet.com> Jim (and anyone else) if you can review these, it's the list of free ephemeris sent out (excluding the ones I KNEW should be there). Let me know if any of them should be Xed. Dave CENTRAL VALLEY ASTRONOMERS P.O. BOX 5013 FRESNO CA 93755-5013 ORANGE COUNTY ASTRONOMERS P. O. BOX 1762 COSTA MESA CA 92628-1762 Email: Charlie@CCCD.EDU S.F. AMATEUR ASTRONOMERS CALIFORNIA ACADEMY SCIENCE SAN FRANCISCO CA 94118 SANTA CRUZ ASTRO CLUB L-2 VILLA SAN CARLOS SANTA CRUZ CA 95065 SAN MATEO ASTRO SOCIETY P.O. BOX 974 STATION A SAN MATEO CA 94403 STOCKTON ASTRO SOCIETY P.O. BOX 243 STOCKTON CA 95201 ANTELOPE VALLEY ASTRO CLUB 41865 BAJA COURT PALMDALE CA 93551-4700 TRI-CITY ASTRO CLUB P.O. BOX 651 RICHLAND WA 99352 LESLIE BAILEY 1776 EDUCATIONAL PARK DRIVE SAN JOSE CA 95133 CELESTRON 2835 COLUMBIA STREET TORRANCE CA 90503 CHINA LAKE P.O. BOX 1783 RIDGECREST CA 93555 RAY COUTCHIE 22018 YBARRA ROAD WOODLAND HILLS CA 91364 DEPARTMENT OF PHYSICS STANFORD UNIVERSITY STANFORD CA 94305 OWEN DURDEN 4298 CABRILLO DRIVE MARTINEZ CA 94553-1412 ANDY FRAKNOI 390 ASHTON AVENUE SAN FRANCISCO CA 94112 FRIENDS OF GRANT RANCH 1127 SIERRA AVENUE SAN JOSE CA 95126 NELLA HENNINGER 10828 CROTHERS ROAD SAN JOSE CA 95127 KAREN E. IMAI 6384 LELAND PARK DRIVE SAN JOSE CA 95120 LISA KILLOUGH 298 GARDEN HILL DRIVE LOS GATOS CA 95030 408-358-3741 JACK MARLING 891 LAGUNA STREET LIVERMORE CA 94550 415-443-7579 JOHN MENDOZA 1025 HARRISON STREET SANTA CLARA CA 95050 408-249-5696 DE ANZA COLLEGE MINOLTA PLANETARIUM 21250 STEVENS CREEK BLVD CUPERTINO CA 95014 RALPH PARLETTE 27 MORNING SUN AVENUE MILL VALLEY CA 94941 CLINT POE 3000 MISSION COLLEGE BLVD SANTA CLARA CA 95054-1897 MONTEREY INSTITUTE FOR RESEARCH IN ASTRONOMY (MIRA). 200 EIGHT STREET MARINA CA 93933 Email: http://mira.org GEORGE SAMPSON 100 SKYPORT DRIVE SAN JOSE CA 95110-1301 GRANT SCHAR 1342 NAGLEE AVENUE SAN JOSE CA 95191-0001 408-287-9172 STEVE SCHILL 645 PARK AVENUE SAN JOSE CA 95110 408-286-1111 CHABOT SCIENCE CENTER 4917 MOUNTIAN BLVD OAKLAND CA 94619 SKY PUBLISHING CORPORATION P.O. BOX 9111 BELMONT MA 02178-9111 TRI-VALLEY STARGAZERS P.O. BOX 2476 LIVERMORE CA 94551 BRIAN SUSSMAN 855 BATTERY STREET SAN FRANCISCO CA 94111-1597 ORION TELESCOPE CENTER P.O. BOX 1158 SANTA CRUZ CA 95061 From jane at whiteoaks.com Wed Jul 11 22:57:06 2001 From: jane at whiteoaks.com (Jane Houston Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:13 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Free Ephemeris Deliveries References: <3B4D008C.87247A2D@znet.com> Message-ID: <3B4D3C32.D595A602@whiteoaks.com> All of the astronomy clubs, science centers and astro businesses have current and accurate addresses on the AANC Northern California Astronomy Resource Guide. Just using an eyeball review before I head off to the ASP meeting in Minneapolis I note the following: Chabot moved a year ago to new digs. Owen Durden died at a Mount Diablo Star Party last year. Andy Fraknoi is at Foothill college not ASP, Lumicon has a new address, but I don't know about Jack Marlings own address. here's the reference: http://www.aanc-astronomy.org/aanc-resourceguide.html Jane Dave North wrote: > Jim (and anyone else) if you can review these, it's the list of free > ephemeris sent out (excluding the ones I KNEW should be there). Let me > know if any of them should be Xed. > > Dave > > CENTRAL VALLEY ASTRONOMERS P.O. BOX 5013 FRESNO CA 93755-5013 > > ORANGE COUNTY ASTRONOMERS P. O. BOX 1762 COSTA MESA CA 92628-1762 > Email: Charlie@CCCD.EDU > > S.F. AMATEUR ASTRONOMERS CALIFORNIA ACADEMY SCIENCE SAN FRANCISCO CA > 94118 > > SANTA CRUZ ASTRO CLUB L-2 VILLA SAN CARLOS SANTA CRUZ CA 95065 > > SAN MATEO ASTRO SOCIETY P.O. BOX 974 STATION A SAN MATEO CA 94403 > > STOCKTON ASTRO SOCIETY P.O. BOX 243 STOCKTON CA 95201 > > ANTELOPE VALLEY ASTRO CLUB 41865 BAJA COURT PALMDALE CA 93551-4700 > > TRI-CITY ASTRO CLUB P.O. BOX 651 RICHLAND WA 99352 > > LESLIE BAILEY 1776 EDUCATIONAL PARK DRIVE SAN JOSE CA 95133 > > CELESTRON 2835 COLUMBIA STREET TORRANCE CA 90503 > > CHINA LAKE P.O. BOX 1783 RIDGECREST CA 93555 > > RAY COUTCHIE 22018 YBARRA ROAD WOODLAND HILLS CA 91364 > > DEPARTMENT OF PHYSICS STANFORD UNIVERSITY STANFORD CA 94305 > > OWEN DURDEN 4298 CABRILLO DRIVE MARTINEZ CA 94553-1412 > > ANDY FRAKNOI 390 ASHTON AVENUE SAN FRANCISCO CA 94112 > > FRIENDS OF GRANT RANCH 1127 SIERRA AVENUE SAN JOSE CA 95126 > > NELLA HENNINGER 10828 CROTHERS ROAD SAN JOSE CA 95127 > > KAREN E. IMAI 6384 LELAND PARK DRIVE SAN JOSE CA 95120 > > LISA KILLOUGH 298 GARDEN HILL DRIVE LOS GATOS CA 95030 > 408-358-3741 > > JACK MARLING 891 LAGUNA STREET LIVERMORE CA 94550 > 415-443-7579 > > JOHN MENDOZA 1025 HARRISON STREET SANTA CLARA CA 95050 > 408-249-5696 > > DE ANZA COLLEGE MINOLTA PLANETARIUM 21250 STEVENS CREEK BLVD CUPERTINO > CA 95014 > > RALPH PARLETTE 27 MORNING SUN AVENUE MILL VALLEY CA 94941 > > CLINT POE 3000 MISSION COLLEGE BLVD SANTA CLARA CA 95054-1897 > > MONTEREY INSTITUTE FOR RESEARCH IN ASTRONOMY (MIRA). > 200 EIGHT STREET MARINA CA 93933 > Email: http://mira.org > > GEORGE SAMPSON 100 SKYPORT DRIVE SAN JOSE CA 95110-1301 > > GRANT SCHAR 1342 NAGLEE AVENUE SAN JOSE CA 95191-0001 > 408-287-9172 > > STEVE SCHILL 645 PARK AVENUE SAN JOSE CA 95110 > 408-286-1111 > > CHABOT SCIENCE CENTER 4917 MOUNTIAN BLVD OAKLAND CA 94619 > > SKY PUBLISHING CORPORATION P.O. BOX 9111 BELMONT MA 02178-9111 > > TRI-VALLEY STARGAZERS P.O. BOX 2476 LIVERMORE CA 94551 > > BRIAN SUSSMAN 855 BATTERY STREET SAN FRANCISCO CA 94111-1597 > > ORION TELESCOPE CENTER P.O. BOX 1158 SANTA CRUZ CA 95061 > _______________________________________________ > SJAABoard mailing list > SJAABoard@sjaa.net > http://www.sjaa.net/mailman/listinfo/sjaaboard -- Jane Houston Jones San Rafael, CA jane@whiteoaks.com http://www.whiteoaks.com From jvn at svpal.org Thu Jul 12 00:19:22 2001 From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:13 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Free Ephemeris Deliveries References: <3B4D008C.87247A2D@znet.com> Message-ID: <3B4D4F7A.486A@svpal.org> Hi, Dave, The traditional policy was that we send a newsletter to any club who sends one to us. We send to a store who will post it for their customers to see. We send to people who write regular articles, such as Don Machholz, who I'm willing to continue. Jack Petersen was very liberal with free issues to teachers where we had done a school star party. But if we have not been there for several years, I'd say drop them. The most conservative approach would be to write each potential dropee, stating that we're cleaning house, and if they' like to continue recieveing the newsletter, please drop us a line. Don't include a postcard or envelope. > CENTRAL VALLEY ASTRONOMERS P.O. BOX 5013 FRESNO CA 93755-5013 > ORANGE COUNTY ASTRONOMERS P. O. BOX 1762 COSTA MESA CA 92628-1762 We get their newsletters. > S.F. AMATEUR ASTRONOMERS CALIFORNIA ACADEMY SCIENCE SAN FRANCISCO CA Used to get a newsletter, nothing in recent year or two. Club is on AANC list, but the URL doesn't work. > SANTA CRUZ ASTRO CLUB L-2 VILLA SAN CARLOS SANTA CRUZ CA 95065 > SAN MATEO ASTRO SOCIETY P.O. BOX 974 STATION A SAN MATEO CA 94403 > STOCKTON ASTRO SOCIETY P.O. BOX 243 STOCKTON CA 95201 We get these three > ANTELOPE VALLEY ASTRO CLUB 41865 BAJA COURT PALMDALE CA 93551-4700 I've never seen this one. Perhaps it goes to someone else at SJAA? > TRI-CITY ASTRO CLUB P.O. BOX 651 RICHLAND WA 99352 We get this one. > LESLIE BAILEY 1776 EDUCATIONAL PARK DRIVE SAN JOSE CA 95133 This is the address of Independence High. I'd drop it. Gail Chaid is now the planetarium director, and she knows where to find us. > CELESTRON 2835 COLUMBIA STREET TORRANCE CA 90503 Donno why this?? > CHINA LAKE P.O. BOX 1783 RIDGECREST CA 93555 Small group, but we get their newsletter > RAY COUTCHIE 22018 YBARRA ROAD WOODLAND HILLS CA 91364 He used to be the contact for a closed club called the Polaris Society. It fragmented some years ago. If it still exists, it's no longer sending their newsletter. > DEPARTMENT OF PHYSICS STANFORD UNIVERSITY STANFORD CA 94305 Donno. Might have been someone there who was/is interested. > OWEN DURDEN 4298 CABRILLO DRIVE MARTINEZ CA 94553-1412 Used to run a store called the Odd Assortment (I think it was) Jane reports that he's deceased. His store closed some time ago. > ANDY FRAKNOI 390 ASHTON AVENUE SAN FRANCISCO CA 94112 See Jane's note; he's somewhere else. It's possible that someone at ASP is reading the Ephemeris. It's a sure bet that Andy doesn't miss it, as he has not filed a change of address. I suspect it could be dropped. > FRIENDS OF GRANT RANCH 1127 SIERRA AVENUE SAN JOSE CA 95126 Used to get their newsletter, but not for a few years now. > NELLA HENNINGER 10828 CROTHERS ROAD SAN JOSE CA 95127 > KAREN E. IMAI 6384 LELAND PARK DRIVE SAN JOSE CA 95120 > LISA KILLOUGH 298 GARDEN HILL DRIVE LOS GATOS CA 95030 I vaguely recall these name, are/were teachers -- haven't heard from them for years. > JACK MARLING 891 LAGUNA STREET LIVERMORE CA 94550 Jack has done talks for the club, about LPR filters, of course. > JOHN MENDOZA 1025 HARRISON STREET SANTA CLARA CA 95050 Official in S.C. chamber of commerce. They do/did a daytime event (flag day??) at which we did a sun party a few times. We had only 2 or 3 kids come over to look, and we've stayed home. Drop this one. > DE ANZA COLLEGE MINOLTA PLANETARIUM 21250 STEVENS CREEK BLVD CUPERTINO This is probably a leftover from when we held our general meetings there. Drop? > RALPH PARLETTE 27 MORNING SUN AVENUE MILL VALLEY CA 94941 No idea. I've heard of him, maybe San Francisco Amateur Astronomer member? > CLINT POE 3000 MISSION COLLEGE BLVD SANTA CLARA CA 95054-1897 Even less of an idea. > MONTEREY INSTITUTE FOR RESEARCH IN ASTRONOMY (MIRA). We get their amateur arm's newsletter CCAS plus occasional MIRA bulletins. > GEORGE SAMPSON 100 SKYPORT DRIVE SAN JOSE CA 95110-1301 This is TV channel 54's contact. They've run announcements for our events, but only if specifically asked to do so. We were there answering phones for a pledge night. George seemed interested in our activities, and Tom Ahl added him to the list. Haven't heard from him since, tho he's still at KTEH. > GRANT SCHAR 1342 NAGLEE AVENUE SAN JOSE CA 95191-0001 This seems to be the Rosecrucian Planetarium. We used to meet there. Drop it. > STEVE SCHILL 645 PARK AVENUE SAN JOSE CA 95110 He used to be weatherman at Ch.11, I think. Used to broadcast from the public star party, but we haven't heard from him for years. Drop it. > CHABOT SCIENCE CENTER 4917 MOUNTIAN BLVD OAKLAND CA 94619 New address, but we don't get any newsletter or announcements. 10000 Skyline Boulevard, OAKLAND, CA 94619 > SKY PUBLISHING CORPORATION P.O. BOX 9111 BELMONT MA 02178-9111 They very rarely have used stuff from the Ephemeris. > TRI-VALLEY STARGAZERS P.O. BOX 2476 LIVERMORE CA 94551 We get their newsletter. > BRIAN SUSSMAN 855 BATTERY STREET SAN FRANCISCO CA 94111-1597 He used to be weatherman at Ch.7. Used to broadcast from the public star party, but we haven't heard from him for years. Drop it. > ORION TELESCOPE CENTER P.O. BOX 1158 SANTA CRUZ CA 95061 Their stores are in Cupertino and Watsonville. This one is being wasted. -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association JVN's home page From jane at whiteoaks.com Thu Jul 12 06:39:04 2001 From: jane at whiteoaks.com (Jane Houston Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:13 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Free Ephemeris Deliveries References: <3B4D008C.87247A2D@znet.com> <3B4D4F7A.486A@svpal.org> Message-ID: <3B4DA878.1E38CF25@whiteoaks.com> new SFAA website http://www.sfaa-astronomy.org/sfaa/ - I guess they have not notified AANC: > > OWEN DURDEN 4298 CABRILLO DRIVE MARTINEZ CA 94553-1412 > Used to run a store called the Odd Assortment (I think it was) > Jane reports that he's deceased. His store closed some time ago. I think we ran an item in the Ephemeris about his death and the auction of his stuff. If not an article, then it was an email announcement, I think from Denni Medlock. > > ANDY FRAKNOI 390 ASHTON AVENUE SAN FRANCISCO CA 94112 > See Jane's note; he's somewhere else. It's possible that someone at ASP > is reading the Ephemeris. It's a sure bet that Andy doesn't miss it, as > he has not filed a change of address. I suspect it could be dropped. ASP does have a table of newsletters right insude the front door of ASP. I'd delete Fraknoi from the address, keep sending the newsletter to ASP > > RALPH PARLETTE 27 MORNING SUN AVENUE MILL VALLEY CA 94941 > No idea. I've heard of him, maybe San Francisco Amateur Astronomer > member? I haven't heard of him. > > CHABOT SCIENCE CENTER 4917 MOUNTIAN BLVD OAKLAND CA 94619 > New address, but we don't get any newsletter or announcements. > 10000 Skyline Boulevard, OAKLAND, CA 94619 You probably can drop it, as Denni/Kevin get the newsletter -- Jane Houston Jones San Rafael, CA jane@whiteoaks.com http://www.whiteoaks.com From north at znet.com Thu Jul 12 08:47:16 2001 From: north at znet.com (Dave North) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:13 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Free Ephemeris Deliveries References: <3B4D008C.87247A2D@znet.com> <3B4D4F7A.486A@svpal.org> Message-ID: <3B4DC683.2CAD73C5@znet.com> JVN: >>The most conservative approach would be to write each potential dropee, stating that we're cleaning house, and if they' like to continue recieveing the newsletter, please drop us a line. Don't include a postcard or envelope.<< I think that's a fine idea where there is some doubt, but those you have marked for deletion will be deleted. If someone wants to put them back in at a later date, I'll take care of that too. Should someone want to check additional listings, I suggest the board accept volunteers. I'll supply whatever database info might be needed. > CELESTRON 2835 COLUMBIA STREET TORRANCE CA 90503 > Donno why this?? Could it be a holdover from the Great Junk Donation that built Fremont Peak? > CHINA LAKE P.O. BOX 1783 RIDGECREST CA 93555 > Small group, but we get their newsletter We dropped by there once ... cool place! Dave From wb6yru at aenet.net Fri Jul 13 01:29:48 2001 From: wb6yru at aenet.net (Gary Mitchell) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:13 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Free Ephemeris Deliveries References: <3B4D008C.87247A2D@znet.com> <3B4D4F7A.486A@svpal.org> Message-ID: <3B4EB17C.2751@aenet.net> Jim Van Nuland wrote: > > OWEN DURDEN 4298 CABRILLO DRIVE MARTINEZ CA 94553-1412 > Used to run a store called the Odd Assortment (I think it was) > Jane reports that he's deceased. His store closed some time ago. Bulk mail items are not returned, so a situation like this could go on forever. However, if we put the magic words: "ADDRESS SERVICE REQUESTED" on the newsletter, we'd be notified that the piece couldn't be delivered. (It has to be centered vertically, in bold letters, to the left of the address.) > > ANDY FRAKNOI 390 ASHTON AVENUE SAN FRANCISCO CA 94112 > See Jane's note; he's somewhere else. He's been the astronomy teacher at Foothill College for a while now. > > FRIENDS OF GRANT RANCH 1127 SIERRA AVENUE SAN JOSE CA 95126 > Used to get their newsletter, but not for a few years now. Is this organization still active? We used to have star parties up there on a regular basis. > > GEORGE SAMPSON 100 SKYPORT DRIVE SAN JOSE CA 95110-1301 > This is TV channel 54's contact. They've run announcements for our > events, but only if specifically asked to do so. We were there > answering phones for a pledge night. George seemed interested in our > activities, and Tom Ahl added him to the list. Haven't heard from him > since, tho he's still at KTEH. I believe that's an old address. KTEH moved a while back, I don't know their current address. > > ORION TELESCOPE CENTER P.O. BOX 1158 SANTA CRUZ CA 95061 > Their stores are in Cupertino and Watsonville. This one is being > wasted. How about changing this to the Cupertino store? Of the non-club and non-member mailings, I would think the nearest telescope store certainly should be on the list. Gary From jvn at svpal.org Fri Jul 13 02:58:06 2001 From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:13 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Free Ephemeris Deliveries References: <3B4D008C.87247A2D@znet.com> <3B4D4F7A.486A@svpal.org> <3B4EB17C.2751@aenet.net> Message-ID: <3B4EC62E.319@svpal.org> Gary Mitchell wrote: > > Jim Van Nuland wrote: > > > > OWEN DURDEN 4298 CABRILLO DRIVE MARTINEZ CA 94553-1412 > > Used to run a store called the Odd Assortment (I think it was) > > Jane reports that he's deceased. His store closed some time ago. > > Bulk mail items are not returned, so a situation like this > could go on forever. However, if we put the magic words: > "ADDRESS SERVICE REQUESTED" We ought to do this! It costs us the return postage, but it'll save printing costs. > > > FRIENDS OF GRANT RANCH 1127 SIERRA AVENUE SAN JOSE CA 95126 > > Used to get their newsletter, but not for a few years now. > > Is this organization still active? We used to have star > parties up there on a regular basis. I believe it's still active, but Paul Mancuso would know best. > > > GEORGE SAMPSON 100 SKYPORT DRIVE SAN JOSE CA 95110-1301 > > This is TV channel 54's contact. > > I believe that's an old address. KTEH moved a while back, I > don't know their current address. True. But I don't think it's worth sending. They've run our announcements but only when specifically requested. > > > ORION TELESCOPE CENTER P.O. BOX 1158 SANTA CRUZ CA 95061 > > Their stores are in Cupertino and Watsonville. This one is being > > wasted. > > How about changing this to the Cupertino store? Of the > non-club and non-member mailings, I would think the > nearest telescope store certainly should be on the list. There may already be one going there. Dave didn't list all the freebees, but only those that he did not know whether they are valid. -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association JVN's home page From north at znet.com Fri Jul 13 09:05:39 2001 From: north at znet.com (Dave North) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:13 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Free Ephemeris Deliveries References: <3B4D008C.87247A2D@znet.com> <3B4D4F7A.486A@svpal.org> <3B4EB17C.2751@aenet.net> Message-ID: <3B4F1C52.D7EAB834@znet.com> Gary: >>Is this organization still active? We used to have star parties up there on a regular basis.<< JVN: >>I believe it's still active, but Paul Mancuso would know best.<< Yes, they're still active (as of a few months ago anyway). We were up there twice last year. Jim on Cupertino: >>There may already be one going there. Dave didn't list all the freebees, but only those that he did not know whether they are valid.<< One of the services the distribution department offers (via Lew) is delivering the bulk of the extras to Orion Cupertino. So mailing one is ... well, you know. Gary: >>if we put the magic words: "ADDRESS SERVICE REQUESTED" on the newsletter, we'd be notified that the piece couldn't be delivered.<< JVN: >>We ought to do this! It costs us the return postage, but it'll save printing costs.<< That, of course, is something Mojo would do. Suggest Gary contact Mojo, and if it "just happens" the board can deal with that however they wish. Dave From jvn at svpal.org Sat Jul 14 01:25:31 2001 From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:13 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] KTEH pledge night Message-ID: <3B5001FB.62F7@svpal.org> Hi, All, We've answered KTEH phones a couple times some years ago. Shall I post to the announce list (and maybe also TAC) and try to scare up 10 people? If we don't have the 10, we'd still be welcome to go help our own PBS station. What d'y'all think? -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association JVN's home page -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Emily Juan Subject: SJAA Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 11:01:03 -0700 Size: 1512 Url: http://www.sjaa.net/pipermail/sjaaboard/attachments/20010714/0f4eea80/attachment.mht From bartolij at POM-EMH1.ARMY.MIL Sat Jul 14 15:03:04 2001 From: bartolij at POM-EMH1.ARMY.MIL (Bartolini, Jim) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:13 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] KTEH pledge night Message-ID: <9112B1E00AB4D311A9F3009027AF88B6726496@pom-emh1.army.mil> >>From: Jim Van Nuland >>We've answered KTEH phones a couple times some years ago. Shall I >>post to the announce list (and maybe also TAC) and try to scare up 10 >>people? Sounds good to me. I'm willing to participate, depending on when it would be scheduled........... Jim ......... 8-) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.sjaa.net/pipermail/sjaaboard/attachments/20010714/8b01cd08/attachment.html From jvn at svpal.org Sat Jul 14 15:46:39 2001 From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:13 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] KTEH pledge night -- more details References: <9112B1E00AB4D311A9F3009027AF88B6726496@pom-emh1.army.mil> Message-ID: <3B50CBCF.1015@svpal.org> > >>From: Jim Van Nuland > >>We've answered KTEH phones a couple times some years ago. Shall I > >>post to the announce list (and maybe also TAC) and try to scare up > >>10 people? Bartolini, Jim wrote: > Sounds good to me. I'm willing to participate, depending on when it > would be scheduled........... Thursday August 16th from 6:30 pm-11:30pm. During this shift, Best of Cosmos, and Odyssey:The Mind's Eye will be showing for approximately 3 hours. We'd be answering phones for about 2 hours. There's an explanation of the procedure first, and during the pledge breaks, we'd be busy. Make it BUSY! When the program resumes, we'd be fed and could watch the programs. The studio is hot when the lights are on! Dress lightly and carry a jacket. And the room is noisy! I suggest an earplug for the unused ear. -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association JVN's home page From wb6yru at aenet.net Sat Jul 14 17:45:21 2001 From: wb6yru at aenet.net (Gary Mitchell) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:13 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] KTEH pledge night References: <3B5001FB.62F7@svpal.org> Message-ID: <3B50E7A1.3FF4@aenet.net> Jim Van Nuland wrote: > > Hi, All, > > We've answered KTEH phones a couple times some years ago. Shall I > post to the announce list (and maybe also TAC) and try to scare up 10 > people? > > If we don't have the 10, we'd still be welcome to go help our own PBS > station. > > What d'y'all think? This isn't exactly astronomy related, but if we get ten or more, it might be good publicity for our public star party. If a significant number are willing to go (especially if we need one or two more to have ten), I'd be willing to go along. Maybe it would be a good idea to post this on the announce remailer too, sjaaboard has a limited audience. Gary From bartolij at POM-EMH1.ARMY.MIL Sat Jul 14 19:19:47 2001 From: bartolij at POM-EMH1.ARMY.MIL (Bartolini, Jim) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:13 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] KTEH pledge night -- more details Message-ID: <9112B1E00AB4D311A9F3009027AF88B6726497@pom-emh1.army.mil> >>From: Jim Van Nuland >>Thursday August 16th from 6:30 pm-11:30pm...... Dang -- that's the Nelms Star Party at Lassen. Of course, if I don't go (and it's a possibility), I'll be available for KTEH. Jim ........ 8-) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.sjaa.net/pipermail/sjaaboard/attachments/20010714/8adbe97f/attachment.html From jvn at svpal.org Sat Jul 14 23:16:01 2001 From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:13 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] KTEH pledge night References: <3B5001FB.62F7@svpal.org> <3B50E7A1.3FF4@aenet.net> Message-ID: <3B513521.2959@svpal.org> > Jim Van Nuland wrote: > > We've answered KTEH phones a couple times some years ago. Shall I > > post to the announce list (and maybe also TAC) and try to scare up 10 > > people? > > > > If we don't have the 10, we'd still be welcome to go help our own PBS > > station. > > > > What d'y'all think? Gary Mitchell wrote: > This isn't exactly astronomy related, but if we get ten or > more, it might be good publicity for our public star party. They run a science night (Thursday), which includes some astronomy / astrophysics / space program material. I'd like to support their efforts. > Maybe it would be a good idea to post this on the announce > remailer too, sjaaboard has a limited audience. Definitely! But I wanted the feeling of the board. I think we should ask TAC as well. -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association JVN's home page From bhavner at ricochet.net Sun Jul 15 18:05:45 2001 From: bhavner at ricochet.net (Bob & Brenda Havner) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:13 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] KTEH pledge night References: <3B5001FB.62F7@svpal.org> Message-ID: <001f01c10d93$77538380$c405703f@havner> > If we don't have the 10, we'd still be welcome to go help our own PBS > station. > > What d'y'all think? Jim, Count me in!!! Bob bhavner@ricochet.net From jvn at svpal.org Mon Jul 16 14:28:54 2001 From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:13 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Calendar, 2002 Message-ID: <3B535C96.2B89@svpal.org> Version 1, 2001 Jul.16. JVN only. Here is the proposed Calendar for 2002. Check it carefully. When you print this, PLEASE use a M*O*N*O*S*P*A*C*E*D font so that the columns will line up. General Astro Houge Park Dark-sky 2002 Meeting Class Star Party Star Party January 26 18 4, 18 5, 12c February 23 22 8, 22 2, 9c March 30 22 8, 22 9, 16c April 28* 19 5, 19 6, 13c May 18 17 3, 17, 31 4, 11c June 22 14 14, 28 1, 8c July 27 19 19 6, 13mc August 24 16 2, 16, 30 3s, 10c, 31 September 21 13 13, 27 7c, 28s October 19 11 11 5c, 26s November 16 15 1, 15, 29 2c, 30 December 14 13 7mc, 28?? * Auction: April 28, a Sunday. + Decide how far we want to go with the class. = Astronomy Day is xxxxxx; Houge on xxth. (x day moon). STAR PARTY notations -- c Coe and Peak. Others Peak. m Late moonset, over 2 hours after astronomical dark. s Early moonrise, less than 3 hours of dark. OTHER dates and events -- Easter - Mar.31 (school vacations week before or after) DST start - Apr.7 TAX day - Apr.15, Monday RTMC -- May 24-27, Full moon on Sunday Star-B-Q I would recommend Aug.10, but who asked me? DST ends Oct.27 GENERAL MEETINGS - There's a 7-week jump from Dec 01 to Jan 02, which has to happen every couple years; we jump from early to late in the month. Then the moon slowly pushes us back to earlier in the month. The May meeting should be on 25, but that's the middle of RTMC. The December meeting should be on 21, too busy with the holidays. HOUGE Public star parties - Could do one on Dec.27. Anyone willing to be there? ... Uh huh. Didn't think so. ASTRONOMY CLASS - Shall we continue with the class on Friday night? Last year we put some classes on moon star parties, others on dark. Was this useful? Hmm, didn't think so. I've arbitrarily set them on the moony night. COE: Coe dates are also official Peak dates. Coe is the second of consecutive weeks, because Coe isn't bothered by the small newish moon. Clear Skies! Jim. -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association JVN's home page From wb6yru at aenet.net Tue Jul 17 01:43:24 2001 From: wb6yru at aenet.net (Gary Mitchell) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:13 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Calendar, 2002 References: <3B535C96.2B89@svpal.org> Message-ID: <3B53FAAC.3F54@aenet.net> Jim Van Nuland wrote: > GENERAL MEETINGS - There's a 7-week jump from Dec 01 to Jan 02, which > has to happen every couple years; we jump from early to late in the > month. Then the moon slowly pushes us back to earlier in the month. Personally, later in the month is good for me (the current SJAA meeting day has prevented me from doing something else I've wanted). > HOUGE Public star parties - Could do one on Dec.27. Anyone willing to > be there? ... Uh huh. Didn't think so. It's not a problem for me. By then the turkey has digested and some folks may be itching to try out the new astro toy Santa left. ;) > COE: Coe dates are also official Peak dates. Please don't do that! One time I went to Coe (with a visitor for the first time) and found some other new people there waiting around the locked gate expecting to see this big SJAA star party. There were no other SJAA members around--it was only me--and I showed up late. The Coe star party had been published too, but everyone else apparently went to the Peak... Very bad form. Gary From jvn at svpal.org Wed Jul 18 00:29:23 2001 From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:13 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Calendar, 2002 References: <3B535C96.2B89@svpal.org> <3B53FAAC.3F54@aenet.net> Message-ID: <3B553AD3.68FF@svpal.org> Gary Mitchell wrote: > Jim Van Nuland wrote: [snip] > > HOUGE Public star parties - Could do one on Dec.27. Anyone willing to > > be there? ... Uh huh. Didn't think so. > > It's not a problem for me. By then the turkey has digested > and some folks may be itching to try out the new astro toy > Santa left. ;) I'd thought that, too, but it's likely that I'll have house guests. Anyone willing to run the key? > > COE: Coe dates are also official Peak dates. > > Please don't do that! > > One time I went to Coe (with a visitor for the first time) and > found some other new people there waiting around the locked gate > expecting to see this big SJAA star party. [snip] The > Coe star party had been published too, but everyone else > apparently went to the Peak... Very bad form. That may have been a while ago? For a couple years now, there have been sharply more people at Coe, partly due to problems at The Peak. But whether we list Coe or The Peak, people will go where they choose. The directions to Coe include the warning that events are lightly attended. This was done because of such things as you describe, maybe including that particular one! We want to list Peak events so that they are covered by our insurance. We'll have people up there anyway. -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association JVN's home page From wb6yru at aenet.net Thu Jul 19 00:40:55 2001 From: wb6yru at aenet.net (Gary Mitchell) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:13 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Calendar, 2002 References: <3B535C96.2B89@svpal.org> <3B53FAAC.3F54@aenet.net> <3B553AD3.68FF@svpal.org> Message-ID: <3B568F07.7718@aenet.net> Jim Van Nuland wrote: > But whether we list Coe or The Peak, people will go where they > choose. That's a completely different issue. When a star party is published, it becomes an official club event. Now, if the intent is to simply list possible sites where people can go on their own, then that has to be made very clear. > The directions to Coe include the warning that events are > lightly attended. This was done because of such things as you describe, > maybe including that particular one! Just saying it may be lightly attended doesn't cut it, IMO. > We want to list Peak events so that they are covered by our > insurance. We'll have people up there anyway. Are you saying that even if we aren't having a star party at a site, we want to list it anyway just in case any SJAA memebers go there, they'd be covered by the club's insurance? I could be wrong, but that sounds like it might be border-line fraud. Gary From jvn at svpal.org Sun Jul 29 16:00:11 2001 From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:13 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Calendar 2002, revisions Message-ID: <3B64957B.D27@svpal.org> Hi, all, Very little input when I sent this 2 weeks ago. I've moved the class dates as suggested by Mike. BILLO'Sh: please check against your calendar program. Major decisions: (1) Auction and general meeting dates; (2) Class: (a) Fridays? (b) Jan.4? ---------------------------------------------------------- Version 1.1, 2001 Jul.29. JVN, Koop inputs Here is the proposed Calendar for 2002. Check it carefully. Latest change: new schedule for classes. Study notes! When you print this, PLEASE use a M*O*N*O*S*P*A*C*E*D font so that the columns will line up. General Astro Houge Park Dark-sky 2002 Meeting Class Star Party Star Party January 26 4+ 4, 18 5, 12c February 23 8 8, 22 2, 9c March 30 22 8, 22 9, 16c April 28* 5 5, 19= 6, 13c May 18 3,31 3, 17, 31 4, 11c June 22 28 14, 28 1, 8c July 27 19 6, 13mc August 24 2,30 2, 16, 30 3s, 10c, 31 September 21 27 13, 27 7c, 28s October 19 11 5c, 26s November 16 1,29+ 1, 15, 29 2c, 30 December 14 13 7mc, 28?? * Auction: April 28, a Sunday. + Decide how far we want to go with the class. = Astronomy Day is April 20; use Houge on 19th, 1Q moon. STAR PARTY notations -- c Coe and Peak. Others Peak. m Late moonset, over 2 hours after astronomical dark. s Early moonrise, less than 3 hours of dark. OTHER dates and events -- Easter - Mar.31 (school vacations week before or after) DST start - Apr.7 TAX day - Apr.15, Monday RTMC -- May 24-27, Full moon on Sunday Star-B-Q I would recommend Aug.10, but who asked me? DST ends Oct.27 GENERAL MEETINGS - There's a 7-week jump from Dec 01 to Jan 02, which has to happen every couple years; we jump from early to late in the month. Then the moon slowly pushes us back to earlier in the month. The May meeting should be on 25, but that's the middle of RTMC. The December meeting should be on 21, too busy with the holidays. HOUGE Public star parties - Could do one on Dec.27. Anyone willing to be there? ... Uh huh. Didn't think so. ASTRONOMY CLASS - Shall we continue with the class on Friday night? Do we want a Jan.4 class, or is that too early after holidays? Mike Koop points out that we can't do constellation talks when the moon is up. The above dates are moonless except March. DAVE: can you do the Moon on March 22, 2002? COE: Coe dates are also official Peak dates. Coe is the second of consecutive weeks, because Coe isn't bothered by the small newish moon. Clear Skies! Jim. -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association JVN's home page From jvn at svpal.org Tue Jul 31 11:32:54 2001 From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:13 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Calendar notes, October for Sept. issue Message-ID: <3B66F9D6.271E@svpal.org> Hi, All, Here's what I have for October. ISSUES: Class: Ask Bob Fingerhut if he'll do introduction to astrophotography Topic for September class still photography? Will we have an October class? Topic? General meetings: September: Slide & Equipment October: Jeff Moore of NASA November: Robert Naeye, ASP, on Chandra Observatory satellite Will we have a speaker for December 1? Or picnic? October 6 -s- General Meeting. Jeff Moore, NASA, 12 -f- Houge Park star party Sset 6:35 pm, 18% moon rises 3:23 am 13 -s- Fremont Peak star party Sset 6:32 pm, 10% moon rises 4:34 am. 20 -s- Coe and Peak star party Sset 6:21 pm, 22% moon sets 9:27 pm. Moony 26 -f- Astronomy Class XI?, 7:30 pm, hall, Houge Park 26 -f- Houge Park star party Sset 6:16 pm, 77% moon sets 2:59 am 28 -S- DST end. Retard clock by 1 hour at 2 a.m. --> 1 a.m. 2002: I've sent out 2002 and would like to get at least partial agreement on that. Need: Auction, General Meeting dates, Houge Dates. Can wait on Class dates. Clear Skies (and calendars!) -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association JVN's home page