From jvn at svpal.org Mon Oct 7 23:03:25 2002 From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Three calendar questions for Ephemeris Message-ID: <3DA2752D.233F@svpal.org> Hi, All, The Fall Swap on Nov.10 is not in the October Ephemeris. Is it still a go? If so: November 10 - Sunday (NOT Saturday). Fall Swap Meet. Anyone may buy and sell. 10% commission on sales. Noon to about 4 pm. Will the ATM class be held on Nov.21? What's the program for the general meeting? December 5 -Th- ATM Class XXII 7 -Sa- Deep-Sky weekend. Moony Sset 4:49 pm, 18% moon sets 8:20 pm. 13 -Fr- Houge Park star party Sset 4:51 pm, 73% moon sets 2:20 am. 14 -Sa- General Meeting at Houge Park. Speaker TBA 21 -Sa- ATM Class XXIII ??? 28 -Sa- Deep-Sky weekend. Sset 4:58 pm, 26% moon rises 2:46 am. Clear Skies! -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association JVN's web site From wb6yru at aenet.net Tue Oct 8 23:39:01 2002 From: wb6yru at aenet.net (Gary Mitchell) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Three calendar questions for Ephemeris References: <3DA2752D.233F@svpal.org> Message-ID: <3DA3CF05.41CA@aenet.net> Jim Van Nuland wrote: > > Hi, All, > > The Fall Swap on Nov.10 is not in the October Ephemeris. Is it still > a go? If so: Since it isn't listed, perhaps we shouldn't bother. Things like this need all the publicity they can get. Without it even being listed in the activity calendar, how will people know? Gary From koopm at koopm.best.vwh.net Wed Oct 9 10:52:59 2002 From: koopm at koopm.best.vwh.net (Michael Koop) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Calendar 2003 in PDF Message-ID: For ease of printing, I finally have put the PDF version of the calendar up. It took a while for the right person to get the distiller to operate correctly here at work. All times are from the USNO for Houge Park. Twilight Time is Astronomical. http://koopm.best.vwh.net/sjaacalendar03.pdf To the best of my knowlege, this is all correct and up to date, with all the inputs from Jim and Bill OSh. Jim, If you feel that this is ready to go, please make the motion to approve so we can start voting on line. Mike From jvn at svpal.org Wed Oct 9 15:21:36 2002 From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Three calendar questions for Ephemeris References: <3DA2752D.233F@svpal.org> <3DA3CF05.41CA@aenet.net> Message-ID: <3DA4ABF0.8B1@svpal.org> Gary Mitchell wrote: > > Jim Van Nuland wrote: > > > > Hi, All, > > > > The Fall Swap on Nov.10 is not in the October Ephemeris. Is it still > > a go? If so: > > Since it isn't listed, perhaps we shouldn't bother. Things > like this need all the publicity they can get. It'd be in the November issue of the Ephemeris, and the hotline. It should have been sent to other clubs' editors in September, but we'd make the November issue of other club newsletters if we act quickly. Does someone know if Joe Sunseri has been asked? -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association JVN's web site From jane at whiteoaks.com Wed Oct 9 16:52:04 2002 From: jane at whiteoaks.com (Jane Houston Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Swap meet question and current calendar items References: <3DA2752D.233F@svpal.org> <3DA3CF05.41CA@aenet.net> <3DA4ABF0.8B1@svpal.org> Message-ID: <3DA4C124.8040206@whiteoaks.com> You'd still have time to hit most club newsletters. We all seem to work on them between 10th and 15th of the month. If and when you want to announce, just send what you want to publicize to AANC editors and it will go directly to about 20 astronomy club editors - make sure to say you want it to go in their newsletter. :-) Sending it to AANC Contacts gets the information to the editors plus a couple representatives of over 30 astronomy clubs/groups, and many of these club representatives send these announcements on to their own own e-group, chat list or bulletin board. Mojo and I will be working on the Ephemeris over the weekend, so this is what we'll use, subject to updates from you folks I do see several unanswered calendar questions in my Ephemeris e-mail folder right now. Below the questions is the current calendar which Jim sent, and which will be updated with anything you folks want to add! We might add the Leonids, for example. 1. Nov 1 Astro Class XI - on or off? It is in the October Ephemeris, yes or no 2. ATM class XXI November 21 yes or no? 2. ATM class XXIII December 21 yes or no 3. Nov 10 Swap meet - it is not on the website calendar - yes or no November 1 -Fr- Astronomy Class XI -- how many? 1 -Fr- Houge Park star party Sset 5:10 pm, 11% moon rises 3:48 am. 2 -Sa- Deep-Sky weekend. Sset 5:07 pm, 4% moon rises 5:01 am. 9 -Sa- ATM Class XX. Houge Park, 7:30 pm 15 -Fr- Houge Park star party Sset 4:58 pm, 87% moon sets 3:32 am. 16 -Sa- General Meeting at Houge Park. Tony Misch, Lick Obs. 21 -Th- ATM Class XXI 29 -Fr- Houge Park star party Sset 4:51 pm, 23% moon rises 2:40 am. 30 -Sa- Deep-Sky weekend. Sset 4:50 pm, 14% moon rises 3:50 am. December 5 -Th- ATM Class XXII 7 -Sa- Deep-Sky weekend. Moony Sset 4:49 pm, 18% moon sets 8:20 pm. 13 -Fr- Houge Park star party Sset 4:51 pm, 73% moon sets 2:20 am. 14 -Sa- General Meeting at Houge Park. Speaker TBA 21 -Sa- ATM Class XXIII ??? 28 -Sa- Deep-Sky weekend. Sset 4:58 pm, 26% moon rises 2:46 am. Jane -- Jane Houston Jones San Rafael, CA jane@whiteoaks.com http://www.whiteoaks.com From koopm at koopm.best.vwh.net Wed Oct 9 18:44:56 2002 From: koopm at koopm.best.vwh.net (Michael Koop) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Swap is a go Nov 10th! In-Reply-To: <3DA4ABF0.8B1@svpal.org> Message-ID: Jim, You already contacted Joe Sunseri. Joe said he could make it therefore we have a swap. I have also passed out flyers advertising the Swap at the ASP conference in September. I politely asked at last months board meeting for someone to step forward and take responsibility for the swap. The silence was deafening. I guess as President of this fine organization I am ultimately responsible, so I get to do the work. Oh Joy! I will remember this when it comes time for re-election. Here is a quick swap article I will forward to AANC after the board proofreads it: *********************************************** SJAA 2002 Fall Swap Meet Sunday, November 10, 2002, 1:00 PM An Astronomical Swap Meet will be conducted at Houge Park in San Jose. Hosted by the San Jose Astronomical Association. Telescopes, Eyepieces, Mountings, Mirrors, Lenses, Clock Drives, Books, Camera Equipment, Star Charts, Finders, Tubes, Diagonals, Photographs, Space Art - Everything you need to make your hobby more enjoyable. You name it- it's likely to be there! Check your garage and closets for anything astronomical you would like to sell. Anyone can buy and sell! It's fun and easy! This is the second year for the swap, which is follow on to the Spring Auction that has been run for some years. There is no auction, just the Swap sale. Get your Holiday shopping done early this year! Joe Sunseri of Earth and Sky Adventures is expected to be there with many fine new and used items. Doors open at 12:30 am to set up tables and bring in material for sale. Selling will begin at 1 PM, and will run as long as needed (probably 3 PM). Each buyer pays the seller. Sellers are to keep track of their sales and pay 10% commission (fully tax deductible), with a cap of $50 for any one item, $500 maximum per seller. There are no table fees. Please bring items that would interest the astronomical audience such as astronomical stuff, Science Items, and Tech Items. The SJAA reserves the right to turn away inappropriate items for the swap. Do you have a large item to sell such as a telescope? Please email swap@sjaa.net with a description and a photo of the item or a link to your own website for some pre-swap publicity. For more Information and directions, visit our web site at or http://www.sjaa.net/swap.html *********************************************************** Mojo: Please create a remailer for the swap which goes to Bill Arnett, JVN, and Koop Bill Arnett: Please create and feature the swap webpage using the above text. At the bottom of the page, create a space for "Items to be at the Swap" As any people send in swap items, review the item to make sure it's appropriate and add it to the page. For Example, Ken Miura is selling a Takahashi Fluorite FS-102 OTA w/7x50 finder, mounting rings. (We hope!) The bottom of the page has: Items for Swap: 1) Takahashi Fluorite FS-102 This is a link that takes you to a separate webpage, which has a description, possibly, a photo, and an email address for questions to Ken. (Email address spelled out like ken_at_netscape.com to prevent harvesting). Comments? Questions? Flames? Off to another meeting.. Koop Jim's email message forwarded to Mike Koop....... Mon, 26 Aug 2002 13:08:34 -0700 (PDT) Good news! I also gave Joe the dates for 2003. -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association JVN's web site Hi Jim Thank you for the advanced information. I am planning to be at the Nov 10 event. Best wishes Joe Hi, Joe, In 2004, we have scheduled the Auction on April 13, and the fall swap November 9, both Sundays. That's a long way off, but I hope you'll be able to participate if nothing comes up at the last minute. Let me know if it looks good as of now. Thanks! Not so far away is the Fall Swap for 2002, Nov.10. Does it look like you can be here for that one? Clear Skies (and calendars) -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association JVN's web site On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Jim Van Nuland wrote: > Gary Mitchell wrote: > > > > Jim Van Nuland wrote: > > > > > > Hi, All, > > > > > > The Fall Swap on Nov.10 is not in the October Ephemeris. Is it still > > > a go? If so: > > > > Since it isn't listed, perhaps we shouldn't bother. Things > > like this need all the publicity they can get. > > It'd be in the November issue of the Ephemeris, and the hotline. It > should have been sent to other clubs' editors in September, but we'd > make the November issue of other club newsletters if we act quickly. > > Does someone know if Joe Sunseri has been asked? > > -- > Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association > JVN's web site > > _______________________________________________ > SJAABoard mailing list > SJAABoard@sjaa.net > http://www.sjaa.net/mailman/listinfo/sjaaboard > From north at znet.com Wed Oct 9 19:28:08 2002 From: north at znet.com (Dave North) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Swap is a go Nov 10th! References: Message-ID: <3DA4E5B8.8090509@znet.com> > I politely asked at last months board meeting for someone to step forward > and take responsibility for the swap. The silence was deafening. I know that sound! d From mgw at resource-intl.com Wed Oct 9 20:23:24 2002 From: mgw at resource-intl.com (Mark Wagner) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] CalStar thanks... In-Reply-To: <3DA4E5B8.8090509@znet.com> References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20021009201319.02876f38@mail201.pair.com> Thanks to Mike Koop for his support and enthusiasm again this year helping organize CalStar. And thanks to the SJAA board for making the catered dinner possible. The entire event went off without a hitch and was enjoyed by all. The SJAA continues to differentiate itself from other clubs in the most positive of ways.... offering a unique program like CalStar. Amateur astronomers from north bay to Chico to Sacramento, south bay, Monterey, Bakersfield, San Luis Obispo, Atascadero, Santa Barbara, LA, Orange County and San Diego attended. Nice going SJAA! Next year I would like to look into: A) A repeat of the catered dinner for Saturday. B) Possibly having In And Out Burger cater on Friday for dinner. C) A big Pot-Luck on Thursday for dinner. D) Extending the event through Sunday night (several requests for this) E) Finding a way to offer espresso during the night. F) Daytime events - I like the winery tour idea. I also have some good information from Robert Shelton (Lassen attendee over many years) he brought back from the Mt. Bachelor Star Party showing several daytime events that might work at CalStar. And on a personal note... Mike.... next time *you* can drive to place the signs on the road ;-) Mark From jvn at svpal.org Thu Oct 10 01:09:59 2002 From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Class and ATM questions for MK References: <3DA2752D.233F@svpal.org> <3DA3CF05.41CA@aenet.net> <3DA4ABF0.8B1@svpal.org> <3DA4C124.8040206@whiteoaks.com> Message-ID: <3DA535D7.52C6@svpal.org> Jane Houston Jones wrote: [snip] > I do see several unanswered calendar questions > in my Ephemeris e-mail folder right now. > 1. Nov 1 Astro Class XI - on or off? It is in the October Ephemeris, > yes or no > 2. ATM class XXI November 21 yes or no? > 2. ATM class XXIII December 21 yes or no MIKE KOOP: Please advise regarding the above three dates. Originally I included Nov.1 as a contingency class date. It appeared in the October Ephemeris. Should Jane delete it from the November issue? If so I will delete it from the hot line. Are the Nov.21 and Dec.21 ATM classes to be run? And Dec.5? Or should Jane delete them? I had the impression that these, too, were contingency dates. > 3. Nov 10 Swap meet - it is not on the website calendar - yes or no Jane, please insert the above item, stating doors open at 12:30, selling starts at 1 pm. Put Sunday in boldface as it's an unusual day. Thanks much, and my apologies for forgetting it. Whew! I think that's all of the calendar problems. I've been checking dates all evening. My eyes have gotten square. Clear Skies (and calendars!) -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association JVN's web site From jvn at svpal.org Thu Oct 10 00:40:01 2002 From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Call for discussion -- Calendar 2003 References: Message-ID: <3DA52ED1.5FE9@svpal.org> Michael Koop wrote: [snip] > http://koopm.best.vwh.net/sjaacalendar03.pdf [snip] > Jim, If you feel that this is ready to go, please make the motion to > approve so we can start voting on line. MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF 2003 CALENDAR: This is the Call for Discussion. Unless there are serious issues, it is expected that a vote will be called in 72 hours. We will then have another 96 hours to complete the voting, which must be unanimous. Otherwise it will be taken up at the Board meeting on Oct. 19. DISCUSSION: I have meticulously compared my tabular form (below) with the PDF and my poster-size sheet, and found no conflicts. All previous e-mail discussion has been included. I suggest that BillA retain the attached table for the 2003 calendar page. I'll make up the line-by-line form later. Clear Skies! -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association JVN's web site ------------------------------------------------------------- SJAA Calendar for 2003 Version 1.4, 2002 Oct.9, final check of Koop & JVN changes. APPROVED: general agreement, presented for vote. Print this with a M*O*N*O*S*P*A*C*E*D font for column alignment. General ATM Astro Houge Park Dark-sky 2003 Meeting Class Class Star Party Star Party January 18 11, 23 24 10, 24 4c, 25 February 15 8, 20 21 7, 21 1c, 22 March 15 8, 27 7 7, 28 1c, 22, 29c April 13* 12, 24 25 11, 25 26 May 17 10, 22 23 =9, 23 3c, 24, 31c June 14 7, 19 20 6, 20 21, 28c July 12 5+, 17 18 18 19, 26c August 9 7, 21 22 1, 22 23, 30c September 13 6, 18 19 5, 19 20, 27c October 11 4, 16 24 3, 24 18, 25c November 8* 1, 13 28+ 14, 28 15, 22c December 6 N29, 18 19 20, 27c * Auction: Sunday, April 13. Replaces general meeting * Fall Swap on Sunday Nov.9. ALSO general meeting on 8th. + Optional. Reserve hall. = Astronomy Day is May 10; use Houge on 9th, 1Q moon. STAR PARTY notations -- c Coe and Peak. Others Peak. OTHER dates and events -- DST start -- Apr.6 TAX day ---- Apr.15, Tuesday Easter ----- Apr.20 (school vacations week before or after) RTMC ------- May 23-26, 3Q moon Thursday before Star-B-Q --- I would recommend Aug.23, but who asked me? DST ends --- Oct.26 Shingletown- June 25 to 30 Cal-Star --- September 25-28 Messier Marathon - Mar.1, 29, or Apr.26 mentioned. GENERAL MEETINGS - No big discontinuity this year. September could be a week earlier, but would interfere with Labor Day vacations. ATM Class - July 5 provisional -- must ask at previous meetings. Note: "December" Saturday class is November 29. HOUGE Public star parties - Omit July 4, move July 25 to 18. Omit Oct.31 = Halloween, move Oct.17 to 24 to reduce gap. ASTRONOMY CLASS - Moonless dates except March for Moon Class. An extra (November) reserved. COE: Usually second of successive Saturdays. Letter sent to Coe. ------------------------------------------------------------- From jvn at svpal.org Thu Oct 10 02:10:38 2002 From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Swap is a go Nov 10th! References: Message-ID: <3DA5440E.256D@svpal.org> Michael Koop wrote: > > Jim, > You already contacted Joe Sunseri. > Joe said he could make it therefore we have a swap. > I have also passed out flyers advertising the Swap at the ASP conference > in September. Sigh. The old man really IS losing his memory. He's already lost his marbles. > I politely asked at last months board meeting for someone to step > forward and take responsibility for the swap. I have the swap forms and will act as Swap Sheriff. Gary, please remind me what forms additions you suggested at a previous auction. > Here is a quick swap article I will forward to AANC after the board > proofreads it: Mike, this looks superb; good thing I didn't offer to write it. I found no spelling errors. If nobody sees trouble, please send it to: AANC Contacts . Preface it with a sentence asking editors to publish as much as they see fit, and others to pass it on. Thanks for the good work! -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association JVN's web site From bhavner at earthlink.net Thu Oct 10 10:39:36 2002 From: bhavner at earthlink.net (bhavner@earthlink.net) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Swap is a go Nov 10th! Message-ID: > > I politely asked at last months board meeting > for someone to step > > forward and take responsibility for the swap. Mike, Let me know what I can do to help Bob From mgw at resource-intl.com Thu Oct 10 10:56:40 2002 From: mgw at resource-intl.com (Mark Wagner) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Swap is a go Nov 10th! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20021010105608.02bb94d0@mail201.pair.com> At 10:39 AM 10/10/2002 -0700, you wrote: > > > I politely asked at last months board meeting > > for someone to step > > > forward and take responsibility for the swap. > >Mike, > >Let me know what I can do to help Me too Mike, if you'll take a non-board member ;-) From mojo at whiteoaks.com Thu Oct 10 11:12:30 2002 From: mojo at whiteoaks.com (Morris Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Swap is a go Nov 10th! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Michael Koop wrote: > Mojo: > Please create a remailer for the swap which goes to Bill Arnett, JVN, and > Koop 'kay. swap@sjaa.net Testing it now. Mojo -- Morris Jones <*> San Rafael, CA mojo@whiteoaks.com http://www.whiteoaks.com From wb6yru at aenet.net Thu Oct 10 17:11:45 2002 From: wb6yru at aenet.net (Gary Mitchell) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Call for discussion -- Calendar 2003 References: <3DA52ED1.5FE9@svpal.org> Message-ID: <3DA61741.32A7@aenet.net> Jim Van Nuland wrote: > MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF 2003 CALENDAR: > This is the Call for Discussion. > * Auction: Sunday, April 13. Replaces general meeting I'm not thrilled about doing away with one of our monthly meetings. I see these as two completely different events, one shouldn't replace the other. The only snag is that some might think it's a bit much to attend a meeting in the evening and then come back for the auction the next day. Personally, it doesn't bother me. Aside from that, the rest of the calendar looks OK to me. Gary From wb6yru at aenet.net Thu Oct 10 17:45:19 2002 From: wb6yru at aenet.net (Gary Mitchell) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Swap is a go Nov 10th! References: <3DA5440E.256D@svpal.org> Message-ID: <3DA61F1F.7D95@aenet.net> Jim Van Nuland wrote: > I have the swap forms and will act as Swap Sheriff. Gary, please > remind me what forms additions you suggested at a previous auction. The form should mention the commission limits ($50 per item and $500 total). Above all, that needs to be done. Some other ideas are: The swap form talks about the auction too. We might want to revise that for times like this, when there is only a swap. There should be a line for the date as well (or pre-print the date for each event). If the top part is to be a tax deductable receipt, then we probably should be a little more explicit about that. On the line "Thank you for your donation to SJAA" maybe add something like: "(a 501(c)3 corp.)" or something about donations being tax deductible. Also, the club name probalby should be spelled out once. If you have a control number (regarding your computer program) you might want to make a place to record that too. Perhaps after the "Seller's name" line, just above all the info (below the receipt portion). Any other ideas for changes? If you like, I'd be happy to make the mod's and print it up. Gary From Jim.Bartolini at monterey.army.mil Fri Oct 11 07:40:37 2002 From: Jim.Bartolini at monterey.army.mil (Bartolini, Jim) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Call for discussion -- Calendar 2003 Message-ID: <7FFFE5F732B8D511B89E00306E00F0A9FC17E4@POMMAIL1> I have no problem with eliminating the April meeting (in fact, I think I'll be on vacation that weekend anyway). Calendar looks OK to me, too! Jim .............. 8-) ========================================= Jim Bartolini ========================================= -----Original Message----- From: Gary Mitchell [mailto:wb6yru@aenet.net] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 5:12 PM To: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Subject: Re: [SJAABoard] Call for discussion -- Calendar 2003 Jim Van Nuland wrote: > MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF 2003 CALENDAR: > This is the Call for Discussion. > * Auction: Sunday, April 13. Replaces general meeting I'm not thrilled about doing away with one of our monthly meetings. I see these as two completely different events, one shouldn't replace the other. The only snag is that some might think it's a bit much to attend a meeting in the evening and then come back for the auction the next day. Personally, it doesn't bother me. Aside from that, the rest of the calendar looks OK to me. Gary _______________________________________________ SJAABoard mailing list SJAABoard@sjaa.net http://www.sjaa.net/mailman/listinfo/sjaaboard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.sjaa.net/pipermail/sjaaboard/attachments/20021011/970a0439/attachment.html From jane at whiteoaks.com Fri Oct 11 23:48:45 2002 From: jane at whiteoaks.com (Jane Houston Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Unanswered calendar questions References: <3DA2752D.233F@svpal.org> <3DA3CF05.41CA@aenet.net> <3DA4ABF0.8B1@svpal.org> <3DA4C124.8040206@whiteoaks.com> Message-ID: <3DA7C5CD.9030304@whiteoaks.com> Jane Houston Jones wrote: > 1. Nov 1 Astro Class XI - on or off? It is in the October Ephemeris, > yes or no > 2. ATM class XXI November 21 yes or no? > 2. ATM class XXIII December 21 yes or no > 3. Nov 10 Swap meet - it is not on the website calendar - yes or no We received the answer to the Swap meet question. What about these other three questions? Keep them in? If we don't hear from anyone, we'll leave them on the calendar. Thanks, Jane and Mojo Jane Houston Jones San Rafael, CA jane@whiteoaks.com http://www.whiteoaks.com From mojo at whiteoaks.com Sun Oct 13 18:52:45 2002 From: mojo at whiteoaks.com (Morris Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] last chance proof for Ephemeris Message-ID: Before 8 a.m. tomorrow morning I'll be sending the November Ephemeris to the printer, so here's your chance to proof it now. http://ephemeris.sjaa.net/0211/EphNov02.pdf Mojo -- Morris Jones <*> San Rafael, CA mojo@whiteoaks.com http://www.whiteoaks.com From koopm at koopm.best.vwh.net Sun Oct 13 20:11:40 2002 From: koopm at koopm.best.vwh.net (Michael Koop) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Class and ATM questions for MK In-Reply-To: <3DA535D7.52C6@svpal.org> References: <3DA2752D.233F@svpal.org> <3DA3CF05.41CA@aenet.net> <3DA4ABF0.8B1@svpal.org> <3DA4C124.8040206@whiteoaks.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20021013195635.02c37ea0@koopm.best.vwh.net> The Astro Class is a go. We will at least have a sky tour of the evening sky. I have not had the time to ask anyone to do the other part of the class at this late date. Any takers? Why all these questions about the ATM class dates? I asked those in attendance at yesterday's class if they would be interested in the Thursday Nov 21 class and the December 21 class. The answer is what I suspected. If they don't have plans that evening, then they would attend. I need to make sure that either Tom W. or Dwight Elvey are there as an instructor with Carl Larson or Ralph Seguin as possible fill ins. Other possiblilitys are John Dobson if he is in town or even Jane if she is willing to drive down. JVN, please remove any numbering from the classes in the schedule. Neither class is sequential and it seems to just add confusion to newcomers. Mike At 01:09 AM 10/10/02 -0700, you wrote: >Jane Houston Jones wrote: > [snip] > > I do see several unanswered calendar questions > > in my Ephemeris e-mail folder right now. > > > > 1. Nov 1 Astro Class XI - on or off? It is in the October Ephemeris, > > yes or no > > 2. ATM class XXI November 21 yes or no? > > 2. ATM class XXIII December 21 yes or no > >MIKE KOOP: > Please advise regarding the above three dates. Originally I included >Nov.1 as a contingency class date. It appeared in the October >Ephemeris. Should Jane delete it from the November issue? If so I will >delete it from the hot line. > > Are the Nov.21 and Dec.21 ATM classes to be run? And Dec.5? Or should >Jane delete them? I had the impression that these, too, were contingency >dates. > > > > > 3. Nov 10 Swap meet - it is not on the website calendar - yes or no > > Jane, please insert the above item, stating doors open at 12:30, >selling starts at 1 pm. Put Sunday in boldface as it's an unusual day. >Thanks much, and my apologies for forgetting it. > > > Whew! I think that's all of the calendar problems. I've been >checking dates all evening. My eyes have gotten square. > >Clear Skies (and calendars!) >-- >Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association >JVN's web site > >_______________________________________________ >SJAABoard mailing list >SJAABoard@sjaa.net >http://www.sjaa.net/mailman/listinfo/sjaaboard From bhavner at earthlink.net Mon Oct 14 17:27:02 2002 From: bhavner at earthlink.net (Bob Havner) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Feb 2003 Meeting Message-ID: Hi All, Jane Houston Jones will be speaking at our Feb 15, 2003 meeting. Her topic "Observing with Caroline, Williamina, Annie and Jocelyn". An indoor observing session featuring the discoveries of women astronomers. Please see she is put on the calendar. Thanks Bob Havner San Jose Astronomical Association bhavner@earthlink.net From jane at whiteoaks.com Mon Oct 14 18:24:00 2002 From: jane at whiteoaks.com (Jane Houston Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Feb 2003 Meeting References: Message-ID: <3DAB6E30.40800@whiteoaks.com> I'll tell the Ephemeris editors. :-) Jane -- Jane Houston Jones San Rafael, CA jane@whiteoaks.com http://www.whiteoaks.com From north at znet.com Wed Oct 16 10:14:21 2002 From: north at znet.com (Dave North) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Membership Numbers For The Last Month References: <001701c0c3a5$dade5d40$7f86b3cc@havner> Message-ID: <3DAD9E6D.2010300@znet.com> It's good news again, though not stunning: a net increase of two members, one of whom was a free speaker. But don't complain: beats shrinking. The list remains safely above 300, with 285 regular members (we have comps, too). Pretty good job there, folks. d From jvn at svpal.org Thu Oct 17 22:33:03 2002 From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Publicity for Saturday 's speaker Message-ID: <3DAF9D0F.738A@svpal.org> Hi, All, Unexpected publicity for Bro.Guy's talk appears on page 39 of the Oct.15 issue of the Valley Catholic, a local church publication. The hot line number is given, as well as an incorrect URL for our web site, with an "f" instead of a "j". The hotline starts with a statement of the web address. There is also mention of (Vatican Observatory director) Fr.Coyne's talk on Oct.27, which will cost $75/person for dinner and dessert. I'll wager that we're going to have more guests than will the Silver Creek Valley country club. I'm to contact Ray Hidalgo on Friday, to go to the park and help bring over chairs from the other building. Clear Skies! -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association JVN's web site From jvn at svpal.org Thu Oct 17 22:33:03 2002 From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Publicity for Saturday 's speaker Message-ID: <3DAF9D0F.738A@svpal.org> Hi, All, Unexpected publicity for Bro.Guy's talk appears on page 39 of the Oct.15 issue of the Valley Catholic, a local church publication. The hot line number is given, as well as an incorrect URL for our web site, with an "f" instead of a "j". The hotline starts with a statement of the web address. There is also mention of (Vatican Observatory director) Fr.Coyne's talk on Oct.27, which will cost $75/person for dinner and dessert. I'll wager that we're going to have more guests than will the Silver Creek Valley country club. I'm to contact Ray Hidalgo on Friday, to go to the park and help bring over chairs from the other building. Clear Skies! -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association JVN's web site From bhavner at earthlink.net Fri Oct 18 17:35:09 2002 From: bhavner at earthlink.net (Bob Havner) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Oct. 18th meeting Message-ID: I won't be attending Saturdays meeting. I'll be out of town. Bob Havner San Jose Astronomical Association bhavner@earthlink.net From jvn at svpal.org Sat Oct 19 13:36:21 2002 From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Tardy Saturday, absence next week Message-ID: <3DB1C245.66F9@svpal.org> Hi, All, I'm committed to a family event Saturday afternoon. It may run too late for the Board meeting. The one item of business on my agenda is approval of the 2003 calendar. I know of no conflicts or omissions that could not be added along the way. I expect I'll be there in time for the general meeting. If not, Mike, please ask Bro.Guy to autograph a copy of Brother Astronomer: Adventures of a Vatican Scientist (Paperback) for me. Thanks. Clear Skies! -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association JVN's web site From jvn at svpal.org Mon Oct 21 01:12:22 2002 From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Absence Oct.22-24 Message-ID: <3DB3B6E6.3F06@svpal.org> Hi, All, I'll be out of town from Tuesday morning through Thursday afternoon, visiting my daughter & family outside Sutter Creek, CA. I expect to run my usual e-mail, but not as frequently as usual. It's possible that we could stay an extra day. I will soon send a notice to the AANC mailing list with the date of Auction XXIII, and a reminder of the coming Nov.10 Swap Meet. And will prepare the Jan.2003 calendar material for the December Ephemeris. Clear Skies! -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association JVN's web site From koopm at koopm.best.vwh.net Mon Oct 21 16:24:40 2002 From: koopm at koopm.best.vwh.net (Michael Koop) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Speaker for Jan 18th Meeting Message-ID: I am pleased to announce that Dr. Nick Kanas has agreed to speak to our club at the Jan 18, 2003 general meeting. His talk will be titled: Beauties and Beasts: The Golden Age of Pictorial Celestial Cartography Nicks Bio: Nick Kanas, M.D., Professor of Psychiatry at UCSF and the Veterans Hospital in San Francisco, is currently conducting research on psychosocial factors affecting astronauts and cosmonauts in space. An amateur astronomer since childhood, he has pursued the study and collection of antiquarian star atlases for over two decades. He has presented lectures for the California Map Society, as well as regional amateur astronomy associations. His upcoming articles on celestial cartography along with his collection will be published in Mercator's World and Sky and Telescope Magazine. In this slide presentation he will discuss the golden age of pictorial celestial cartography from the 1600-1800. An article by Nick: http://www.mercatormag.com/article.php3?i=111 Mike *************** Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 21:07:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Nick Kanas To: Michael Koop Subject: Re: An Invitation from the SJAA Hi Mike, January 18 should work for me. The timing is good, since I am scheduled to have an article coming out in S&T Magazine in the January 2003 issue! Thanks for the information, below. I will plan to give a slide presentation similar to the one you heard at the Palo Alto Art Center, unless you have some other ideas? Nick From mgw at resource-intl.com Mon Oct 21 16:40:04 2002 From: mgw at resource-intl.com (Mark Wagner) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Speaker for Jan 18th Meeting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20021021163934.01c61ab0@mail201.pair.com> Excellent speaker! Good job to whoever is responsible.... At 11:24 PM 10/21/2002 +0000, you wrote: >I am pleased to announce that Dr. Nick Kanas has agreed to speak to our >club at the Jan 18, 2003 general meeting. His talk will be titled: > >Beauties and Beasts: The Golden Age of Pictorial Celestial Cartography > >Nicks Bio: >Nick Kanas, M.D., Professor of Psychiatry at UCSF and the Veterans >Hospital in San Francisco, is currently conducting research on >psychosocial factors affecting astronauts and cosmonauts in space. An >amateur astronomer since childhood, he has pursued the study and >collection of antiquarian star atlases for over two decades. He has >presented lectures for the California Map Society, as well as regional >amateur astronomy associations. His upcoming articles on celestial >cartography along with his collection will be >published in Mercator's World and Sky and Telescope Magazine. In this >slide presentation he will discuss the golden age of pictorial celestial >cartography from the 1600-1800. > >An article by Nick: >http://www.mercatormag.com/article.php3?i=111 > >Mike > >*************** >Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 21:07:46 -0700 (PDT) >From: Nick Kanas >To: Michael Koop >Subject: Re: An Invitation from the SJAA > >Hi Mike, >January 18 should work for me. The timing is good, since I am scheduled >to have an article coming out in S&T Magazine in the January 2003 issue! > >Thanks for the information, below. I will plan to give a slide >presentation similar to the one you heard at the Palo Alto Art Center, >unless you have some other ideas? > >Nick > > > > >_______________________________________________ >SJAABoard mailing list >SJAABoard@sjaa.net >http://www.sjaa.net/mailman/listinfo/sjaaboard From koopm at koopm.best.vwh.net Mon Oct 21 21:02:09 2002 From: koopm at koopm.best.vwh.net (Michael Koop) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Talk Title Change Jan 18th Meeting (fwd) Message-ID: The new title is: Of Epicycles and Unicorns: Celestial Mapping in the Golden Age See Below. Mike ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 19:46:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Nick Kanas To: Michael Koop Subject: Re: [SJAABoard] Speaker for Jan 18th Meeting (fwd) Mike, Thanks for the feedback. But how about a new title: "Of Epicycles and Unicorns: Celestial Mapping in the Golden Age". Nick On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Michael Koop wrote: > Thanks Nick! I used that info and the link to your Mecator World article > to introduce you to the board and provide enough info for an article in > our newsletter, The Ephemeris. I even got a reply back already. (See > below). > > Mike > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 16:40:04 -0700 > From: Mark Wagner > Reply-To: sjaaboard@sjaa.net > To: sjaaboard@sjaa.net > Subject: Re: [SJAABoard] Speaker for Jan 18th Meeting > > > > Excellent speaker! Good job to whoever is responsible.... > From jvn at svpal.org Mon Oct 21 22:59:09 2002 From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Calendar material Dec - Jan 2003 Message-ID: <3DB4E92D.5B6F@svpal.org> Hi, All, Here's the good stuff for the December Ephemeris. On the Dec.5 and 21 ATM classes, remove the roman numbers. They confuse the attendees, and I'd skipped one or two (uh, I or II), so they're not even valid. Please remove the ? from the Dec.21 ATM class. BobH/anyone: do we have a speaker for December? December 2002 5 -Th- ATM Class at Houge Park, 7:30 pm 7 -Sa- Deep-Sky weekend. Moony Sset 4:49 pm, 18% moon sets 8:20 pm. 13 -Fr- Houge Park star party Sset 4:51 pm, 73% moon sets 2:20 am. 14 -Sa- General Meeting at Houge Park. 21 -Sa- ATM Class at Houge Park, 7:30 pm 28 -Sa- Deep-Sky weekend. Sset 4:58 pm, 26% moon rises 2:46 am. January 2003 4 -Sa- Deep-Sky weekend. Sset 5:02 pm, 6% moon sets 7:05 pm. 10 -Fr- Houge Park star party. Sset 5:09 pm, 56% moon sets 1:06 am. 11 -Sa- ATM Class at Houge Park. 7:30 pm 18 -Sa- General Meeting. Dr. Dick Kanos: Beauties and Beasts: The Golden Age of Pictorial Celestial Cartography. 23 -Th- ATM Class at Houge Park. 7:30 pm 24 -Fr- Astronomy Class at Houge Park. 7:30, subject TBA 24 -Fr- Houge Park star party. Sset 5:23 pm, 52% moon rises 0:39 am. 25 -Sa- Deep-Sky weekend. Sset 5:24 pm, 41% moon rises 1:47 am. School star parties -- please see sig for newest list. It's my intent to keep that page as current as possible, even uploading several times in a day if needed. The record is about 6 times in a day. As of this writing: 2002: Dec. 5 -- The Tech, Members' Night star party on the roof Dec. 9 -- Bachrodt School / Rosemary Gardens, mid- San Jose Dec. 10 -- Morrill Middle, NE San Jose Dec. 12 -- Sakamoto Elem., SE San Jose 2003: Jan. 14 -- Bernal Middle, SE San Jose Jan. 16 -- Millbrook Elem., E San Jose Jan. 17 -- Sunnyhills/Weller School, Milpitas Jan. 21 -- Pending, SE San Jose (alt) Jan. 28 -- Pending, SE San Jose (alt) -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association School events From bhavner at earthlink.net Tue Oct 22 18:31:18 2002 From: bhavner at earthlink.net (Bob Havner) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Calendar material Dec - Jan 2003 In-Reply-To: <3DB4E92D.5B6F@svpal.org> Message-ID: >BobH/anyone: do we have a speaker for December? I have contacted NASA about a speaker for the Dec. meeting. I haven't heard who will be speaking but they came through with Larry Lasher last year. As soon as I know the details I will prepare an article and announcement. Bob From areopagus125 at yahoo.com Tue Oct 22 20:58:27 2002 From: areopagus125 at yahoo.com (David Smith) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Minutes of October board meeting Message-ID: <20021023035827.8418.qmail@web12204.mail.yahoo.com> SJAA Board Meeting Minutes 2002-Oct-19 Attending: Mike Koop, Jim van Nuland, Jim Bartolini, David Smith, Gary Mitchell, Dwight Elvey. Bob Havner out of town. Call to order. Minutes from last meeting: Bill O'Shaughnessey absent, but no problem spotted in his on-line version. Approved. Treasurer's report: Account balances Money market 9/6/02 $2819.72 Savings 6/02 395.89 Checking 8/14 10155.19 Gary purchased 2 sets of slides from ASP: A Grand Tour of the Universe Constellations of the Northern Hemisphere problem: 2 x slide #2, none of #3 Gary put in a request for a recycled computer. No word yet on Pay Pal. Membership report: Dave North sent in via Email Question (Mike): What can we do to attract new dues-paying members? Many activities free to public regardless of membership incl. star parties, ATM class Loaner program S&T archive Discussion of S&T indices & availability Should we get Jim a scanner? Discussion of the propriety of putting ASP pictures on-line Other ideas? Loaner Scope program Many circulating Jack Zeiders will recondition the 17-inch; Dave N. may redo top hat in Kydex Observational class Bob Havner taking over Sky Tour function from Mike K. Permission obtained to print 30 copies (Skymap.com) to distribute each month Q: Should we consider buying a computer monitor projector? ATM class A pitch lap poured last meeting Tom Whitmore leaving at end of year Has been buying grit, but someone else needs to take it over Dwight Elvey stepping in, along with Ralph Seguin, Carl Larson General Meeting programs Bob H got Tony Misch for November: solar eclipses Bob has asked @NASA for a December speaker. Houge Park Star Parties Has been going well, with good attendance & weather. School star parties 3 successful in past week (but modest turnout in Milpitas) Calendar Q: With April swap meet on Sunday, should we have a general meeting that Saturday? <> Fall swap meet on Nov. 10 Mike: Prefer to have any donated items in the Spring auction Someone needs to be here at 12:00 to set up. Elections approaching Terms expiring: Jim Bartolini (expressed willingness to continue if needed) Jim van Nuland Paul Mancuso - wishes to pass baton Bill O'Shaughnessey Bob Havner Terms continuing: Gary Mitchell David Smith Mike Koop Steve Nelson Note (Mike): Please be careful with tone in Email. Usual visual/aural cues of good intent missing. Meeting adjourned. ===== __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ From Paulm at catc.com Wed Oct 23 08:26:14 2002 From: Paulm at catc.com (Paul Mancuso) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Minutes of October board meeting Message-ID: My Apologies to the board. Somehow I put down on my calendar the 24th as the general meeting not the 19th. I hope our speaker had a good audience. paulm From jvn at svpal.org Fri Oct 25 14:55:40 2002 From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Minutes of October board meeting References: <20021023035827.8418.qmail@web12204.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3DB9BDDC.2D40@svpal.org> Dave, the minutes look good. Two things: ADD at attendance -- Absent, Paul Mancuso. ADD: <> JVN: 2003 Calendar Question: should we have a general meeting the day before the swap? Mixed response. We should ask at the general meeting whether we should have a meeting the day before the Auction (forgot to do it). Calendar 2003 approved by acclimation. CALSTAR: Went very well. Fed 100 people at catered supper. About 100 scopes. Sky not as dark as expected. Many highly favorable comments on TAC discussion list. LEONID plans. Bus from S.J. and/or Morgan Hill to Coe: dead. end JVN insertion <> -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association JVN's web site From wb6yru at aenet.net Wed Oct 30 01:19:46 2002 From: wb6yru at aenet.net (Gary Mitchell) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] RASC Books & Calendars Message-ID: <3DBFA432.6890@aenet.net> I now have the order forms for the Royal Astronomical Society of Canada (RASC) books and calendars. Last year we got 10 calendars and 30 Observer's Handbooks. We sold out of the calendars quickly, but had a little trouble selling all of the Observer's Handbooks. We didn't order any of the Beginner's Observing Guides. Our cost is: Calendars: 10 - 24, $9 each 25 or more, $8 each Observer's Handbook 2003: 10 - 24, $14 each 25 or more, $13.50 each Beginner's Observing Guide: 10 - 24, $13 each over 25, $12 each This year I suggest we get at least 15 calendars. Should we take a chance on getting 25? 15 will cost us $135, 20 will cost $180, and 25 will cost $200. RASC recommended retail on the Observer's Handbook is $22.95, and $12.95 on the calendar. Last year we sold the calendars for $10, and I think we got $15 for the Handbooks. How many should we order? My gut feeling is 25 of the Handbooks and 15 of the calendars. ------------ And while on the topic of books... Do we want to get those Astronomy Pocket Diaries again? If so, we should order fewer. We ended up in the black on those, but had quite a few left over. By the way, I had several people comment to me that the APDs weren't as good as they could be. Specifically, the comments were about the tiny print, too much mention of various people's birthday, and not having enough room to write things. Gary From jvn at svpal.org Thu Oct 31 00:14:04 2002 From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] RASC Books & Calendars References: <3DBFA432.6890@aenet.net> Message-ID: <3DC0E64C.957@svpal.org> Gary Mitchell wrote: > > How many should we order? My gut feeling is 25 of the > Handbooks and 15 of the calendars. That seems about right. > And while on the topic of books... Do we want to get those > Astronomy Pocket Diaries again? I didn't care much for them. I think we overpriced them at $10. Since the cost was much lower, selling them for $5 would still bring a profit and surely would sell better. I've no idea of the lead-time requirement. I don't have Mark Taylor's address to ask him.... -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association JVN's web site From wb6yru at aenet.net Thu Oct 31 01:19:22 2002 From: wb6yru at aenet.net (Gary Mitchell) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] RASC Books & Calendars References: <3DBFA432.6890@aenet.net> <3DC0E64C.957@svpal.org> Message-ID: <3DC0F59A.3CBA@aenet.net> Jim Van Nuland wrote: > > Gary Mitchell wrote: > > > > How many should we order? My gut feeling is 25 of the > > Handbooks and 15 of the calendars. > > That seems about right. Any objections from the board if I go ahead with that? It'll take a while for the order to arrive. It would be nice to have them by the December meeting, January at the very latest. So, I'd like to get the order in soon, let's say, by this weekend? > > And while on the topic of books... Do we want to get those > > Astronomy Pocket Diaries again? > > I didn't care much for them. I think we overpriced them at $10. > Since the cost was much lower, selling them for $5 would still bring a > profit and surely would sell better. > > I've no idea of the lead-time requirement. I don't have Mark Taylor's > address to ask him.... Well, the question is: do we get the APDs again? Personally, I didn't care much for them either; but, if people really want them, OK. (You know, we could produce something like it ourselves, if we really wanted to.) Jane Houston tells me if we don't order any and someone wants one anyway, she has them available from the Mount Tamalpais Astronomy Program. Gary From Jim.Bartolini at monterey.army.mil Thu Oct 31 08:05:53 2002 From: Jim.Bartolini at monterey.army.mil (Bartolini, Jim) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] RASC Books & Calendars Message-ID: <7FFFE5F732B8D511B89E00306E00F0A901174E22@POMMAIL1> No objections to the order amounts. Jim .............. 8-) ========================================= Jim Bartolini ========================================= -----Original Message----- From: Gary Mitchell [mailto:wb6yru@aenet.net] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 1:19 AM To: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Subject: Re: [SJAABoard] RASC Books & Calendars Jim Van Nuland wrote: > > Gary Mitchell wrote: > > > > How many should we order? My gut feeling is 25 of the > > Handbooks and 15 of the calendars. > > That seems about right. Any objections from the board if I go ahead with that? It'll take a while for the order to arrive. It would be nice to have them by the December meeting, January at the very latest. So, I'd like to get the order in soon, let's say, by this weekend? > > And while on the topic of books... Do we want to get those > > Astronomy Pocket Diaries again? > > I didn't care much for them. I think we overpriced them at $10. > Since the cost was much lower, selling them for $5 would still bring a > profit and surely would sell better. > > I've no idea of the lead-time requirement. I don't have Mark Taylor's > address to ask him.... Well, the question is: do we get the APDs again? Personally, I didn't care much for them either; but, if people really want them, OK. (You know, we could produce something like it ourselves, if we really wanted to.) Jane Houston tells me if we don't order any and someone wants one anyway, she has them available from the Mount Tamalpais Astronomy Program. Gary _______________________________________________ SJAABoard mailing list SJAABoard@sjaa.net http://www.sjaa.net/mailman/listinfo/sjaaboard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Any objections from the board if I go ahead with that? It'll take a while for the order to arrive. It would be nice to have them by the December meeting, January at the very latest. So, I'd like to get the order in soon, let's say, by this weekend? > > And while on the topic of books... Do we want to get those > > Astronomy Pocket Diaries again? > > I didn't care much for them. I think we overpriced them at $10. > Since the cost was much lower, selling them for $5 would still bring a > profit and surely would sell better. > > I've no idea of the lead-time requirement. I don't have Mark Taylor's > address to ask him.... Well, the question is: do we get the APDs again? Personally, I didn't care much for them either; but, if people really want them, OK. (You know, we could produce something like it ourselves, if we really wanted to.) Jane Houston tells me if we don't order any and someone wants one anyway, she has them available from the Mount Tamalpais Astronomy Program. Gary _______________________________________________ SJAABoard mailing list SJAABoard@sjaa.net http://www.sjaa.net/mailman/listinfo/sjaaboard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.sjaa.net/pipermail/sjaaboard/attachments/20021031/97f4d436/attachment.html From koopm at koopm.best.vwh.net Thu Oct 31 13:19:27 2002 From: koopm at koopm.best.vwh.net (Michael Koop) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] RASC Books & Calendars In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Please order the RASC Calendars and books immediately. They MUST be at the December meeting. Calendars do not sell well in mid January. 25 Handbooks and 15 Calendars is fine. I still have some of the beginner handbooks (which I bought all of them to simplify bookkeeping), so dont get any of those. As a suggestion, you could write an article for the Ephemeris saying that we are ordering these and have people preorder via email to get a closer guess for the amount. Since we were so late with the Calendar this year, I think Mark Taylor does not have the time to get an order for the calendar. I personally asked Mark to remove most of the B-Days and Anti US stuff but he did not have the time last year. Apparently the software used to generate it is cumbersome and not easy to work with. I recommend that we drop the APD's this year unless Mark or Gary is willing to do the work to remove all the non astro information freeing up more space. We just dont have the time to get them here promtly. Mike On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Paul Mancuso wrote: > Me too. > > paulm > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bartolini, Jim [mailto:Jim.Bartolini@monterey.army.mil] > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 8:06 AM > To: sjaaboard@sjaa.net > Subject: RE: [SJAABoard] RASC Books & Calendars > > No objections to the order amounts. > Jim .............. 8-) > ========================================= > Jim Bartolini > ========================================= > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Mitchell [ mailto:wb6yru@aenet.net ] > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 1:19 AM > To: sjaaboard@sjaa.net > Subject: Re: [SJAABoard] RASC Books & Calendars > > Jim Van Nuland wrote: > > > > Gary Mitchell wrote: > > > > > > How many should we order? My gut feeling is 25 of the > > > Handbooks and 15 of the calendars. > > > > That seems about right. > Any objections from the board if I go ahead with that? > It'll take a while for the order to arrive. It would be > nice to have them by the December meeting, January at the > very latest. So, I'd like to get the order in soon, let's > say, by this weekend? > > > And while on the topic of books... Do we want to get those > > > Astronomy Pocket Diaries again? > > > > I didn't care much for them. I think we overpriced them at $10. > > Since the cost was much lower, selling them for $5 would still bring a > > profit and surely would sell better. > > > > I've no idea of the lead-time requirement. I don't have Mark Taylor's > > address to ask him.... > Well, the question is: do we get the APDs again? > Personally, I didn't care much for them either; but, if people > really want them, OK. (You know, we could produce something > like it ourselves, if we really wanted to.) > Jane Houston tells me if we don't order any and someone wants > one anyway, she has them available from the Mount Tamalpais > Astronomy Program. > Gary > _______________________________________________ > SJAABoard mailing list > SJAABoard@sjaa.net > http://www.sjaa.net/mailman/listinfo/sjaaboard > > From mgw at resource-intl.com Thu Oct 31 13:44:29 2002 From: mgw at resource-intl.com (Mark Wagner) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] RASC Books & Calendars In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20021031134201.02d021a8@mail201.pair.com> At 09:19 PM 10/31/2002 +0000, you wrote: >As a suggestion, you could write an article for the Ephemeris saying that >we are ordering these and have people preorder via email to get a closer >guess for the amount. Hi Mike, In addition to an article in the Ephemeris, it may be a good idea to "advertise" the calendars and books on TAC and via the AANC newletter editor's mailing list. If SJAA had a PayPal account you could be taking payment for preorders via the web already. Mark From jane at whiteoaks.com Thu Oct 31 14:11:20 2002 From: jane at whiteoaks.com (Jane Houston Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] RASC Books & Calendars References: <5.1.0.14.2.20021031134201.02d021a8@mail201.pair.com> Message-ID: <3DC1AA88.6080102@whiteoaks.com> Great idea, Mark! Please send all Ephemeris material to the editors by November 9th if you want it in the December issue. Our Leonid mission has just been moved up one day, and so we're already getting stressed out with too much to do between now and November 13th - we'll complete the newsletter on the 9th or 10th this month. Anything you want to go to AANC editors, you can send it to the editors here . Thanks! Jane Mark Wagner wrote: > In addition to an article in the Ephemeris, it may be a good idea to > "advertise" the calendars and books on TAC and via the AANC newletter > editor's mailing list. -- Jane Houston Jones San Rafael, CA jane@whiteoaks.com http://www.whiteoaks.com From akkana at shallowsky.com Thu Oct 31 14:33:05 2002 From: akkana at shallowsky.com (Akkana) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] RASC Books & Calendars In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20021031223305.GA5470@shallowsky.com> Michael Koop writes: > Since we were so late with the Calendar this year, I think Mark Taylor > does not have the time to get an order for the calendar. I personally > asked Mark to remove most of the B-Days and Anti US stuff but he did not > have the time last year. Apparently the software used to generate it is Just so everyone's aware that there are other viewpoints: the first year SJAA sold the APDs, I bought mine from Mt Tam instead, because I enjoy the non-astro stuff and it bothered me that SJAA was censoring the calendars while no other club did. I heard several other SJAA members say the same thing. ...Akkana From mgw at resource-intl.com Thu Oct 31 14:54:12 2002 From: mgw at resource-intl.com (Mark Wagner) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] RASC Books & Calendars In-Reply-To: <20021031223305.GA5470@shallowsky.com> References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20021031144821.00bcf138@mail201.pair.com> At 02:33 PM 10/31/2002 -0800, Akkana wrote: >Just so everyone's aware that there are other viewpoints: the first >year SJAA sold the APDs, I bought mine from Mt Tam instead, because >I enjoy the non-astro stuff There certainly are differences. I would give Mark Taylor ribbing to no end.... opening up my APD and say things like.... "Oh.... it's Chaucer's birthday! Whooopeee Doo!" or "It's Canadian Independence Day!" .... ;-) It was good for a chuckle. Maybe you're right, Akkana... From bhavner at earthlink.net Thu Oct 31 16:53:22 2002 From: bhavner at earthlink.net (Bob Havner) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] RASC Books & Calendars In-Reply-To: Message-ID: RE: [SJAABoard] RASC Books & CalendarsI agree to the counts Bob -----Original Message----- From: sjaaboard-admin@sjaa.net [mailto:sjaaboard-admin@sjaa.net]On Behalf Of Paul Mancuso Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 1:04 PM To: 'sjaaboard@sjaa.net' Subject: RE: [SJAABoard] RASC Books & Calendars Me too. paulm -----Original Message----- From: Bartolini, Jim [mailto:Jim.Bartolini@monterey.army.mil] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 8:06 AM To: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Subject: RE: [SJAABoard] RASC Books & Calendars No objections to the order amounts. Jim .............. 8-) ========================================= Jim Bartolini ========================================= -----Original Message----- From: Gary Mitchell [mailto:wb6yru@aenet.net] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 1:19 AM To: sjaaboard@sjaa.net Subject: Re: [SJAABoard] RASC Books & Calendars Jim Van Nuland wrote: > > Gary Mitchell wrote: > > > > How many should we order? My gut feeling is 25 of the > > Handbooks and 15 of the calendars. > > That seems about right. Any objections from the board if I go ahead with that? It'll take a while for the order to arrive. It would be nice to have them by the December meeting, January at the very latest. So, I'd like to get the order in soon, let's say, by this weekend? > > And while on the topic of books... Do we want to get those > > Astronomy Pocket Diaries again? > > I didn't care much for them. I think we overpriced them at $10. > Since the cost was much lower, selling them for $5 would still bring a > profit and surely would sell better. > > I've no idea of the lead-time requirement. I don't have Mark Taylor's > address to ask him.... Well, the question is: do we get the APDs again? Personally, I didn't care much for them either; but, if people really want them, OK. (You know, we could produce something like it ourselves, if we really wanted to.) Jane Houston tells me if we don't order any and someone wants one anyway, she has them available from the Mount Tamalpais Astronomy Program. Gary _______________________________________________ SJAABoard mailing list SJAABoard@sjaa.net http://www.sjaa.net/mailman/listinfo/sjaaboard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.sjaa.net/pipermail/sjaaboard/attachments/20021031/eea20e88/attachment.html From bhavner at earthlink.net Thu Oct 31 21:54:06 2002 From: bhavner at earthlink.net (Bob Havner) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:17 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Nov. 1 class Message-ID: I am all set to do the Nov. class. I will have the Skymaps and a November flyer to hand out. Mike, Just a reminder to bring your laptop and projector. I have everything else. JVN, Also just a reminder to bring the screen. Whoever has been storing the slide projector for me, It will be needed at the next meeting. Please either bring it to the meeting or I can pick it up at Houge on Friday 11/01, or the swap 11/10. Thanks Bob Havner San Jose Astronomical Association bhavner@earthlink.net