From jvn at svpal.org Wed May 7 16:34:59 2003 From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:20 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Key changed at Houge Park Message-ID: <3EB99823.6A78@svpal.org> Hi, All, Building 1 at Houge Park has been re-keyed, and the rules changed. Some stuff has been stolen from the building, and they don't know who all has a key. I'll pick up the key on Friday afternoon, and it's gotta be returned on Monday. Better than running to Kirk Community Center (the old way), but not by much. I asked him to work on finding a way to allow us to hold onto a (new) key, and he said he would. I also suggested a drop-off box or slot, and he agreed that's a good idea. Right now we're the only user that has regular activities outside of daytime hours (when park staff opens up). So we'll need to do some running at least for a while. I'll get it for now, but I'll also be absent May 21 - June 17, so someone may need to take it until we can convince the management that we should carry the key. -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association JVN's web site From koopm at koopm.best.vwh.net Wed May 7 17:24:46 2003 From: koopm at koopm.best.vwh.net (Michael Koop) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:20 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Key changed at Houge Park In-Reply-To: <3EB99823.6A78@svpal.org> Message-ID: On Wed, 7 May 2003, Jim Van Nuland wrote: > Hi, All, > > Building 1 at Houge Park has been re-keyed, and the rules changed. > Some stuff has been stolen from the building, and they don't know who > all has a key. > Do they know what day the break in was? This might clear or make us a prime suspect. How can they be sure that it was someone with a key? It's too easy to leave a door unlocked. We have had situations when we were there for the star party, the janitors cleaned the room and they left one of the double doors open which caused an alarm. What was taken from the room? Are they sure it was after hours? > I'll pick up the key on Friday afternoon, and it's gotta be returned > on Monday. Better than running to Kirk Community Center (the old way), > but not by much. > > I asked him to work on finding a way to allow us to hold onto a (new) > key, and he said he would. I also suggested a drop-off box or slot, and > he agreed that's a good idea. Right now we're the only user that has > regular activities outside of daytime hours (when park staff opens up). > > So we'll need to do some running at least for a while. I'll get it > for now, but I'll also be absent May 21 - June 17, so someone may need > to take it until we can convince the management that we should carry the > key. While Jim is willing to pick up the key for the next two weeks, I dont see how it will work with Jim on Vacation. I do not have the time to go pick up the key during the day. We need to get a new copy ASAP. What does Ray need to get permission to get us a copy of the key? If it is a money issue, I'm sure the board will approve the expendature of any money nessicary. Mike From jvn at svpal.org Thu May 8 00:36:25 2003 From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:20 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Key changed at Houge Park References: Message-ID: <3EBA08F9.733B@svpal.org> Michael Koop wrote: > Do they know what day the break in was? > This might clear or make us a prime suspect. > How can they be sure that it was someone with a key? It's too easy to > leave a door unlocked. We have had situations when we were there for the > star party, the janitors cleaned the room and they left one of the > double doors open which caused an alarm. > What was taken from the room? Are they sure it was after hours? He didn't give details other than "radio and stuff". I didn't pump him for more; he'd begun by apologizing for the trouble and stating that he knew we were good guys who take good care of the place. Their problem is that there are keys whose holders are unknown. Yes, that's lousy record-keeping. The Red Cross had re-keyed the Los Gatos building every year or so, at least once with 1 hour warning. This isn't as bad. > What does Ray need to get > permission to get us a copy of the key? If it is a money issue, I'm sure > the board will approve the expenditure of any money necessary. I already asked him to work on this, and offered to pay a deposit. (I did not bring up the fact that we have already paid $25 deposit for the present key, and that it ought to be refunded or applied to a new key.) -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association JVN's web site From areopagus125 at yahoo.com Sat May 10 23:58:31 2003 From: areopagus125 at yahoo.com (David Smith) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:20 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Key changed at Houge Park In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030511065831.73250.qmail@web12203.mail.yahoo.com> --- Michael Koop wrote: > While Jim is willing to pick up the key for the next > two weeks, I dont see > how it will work with Jim on Vacation. I do not have > the time to go pick > up the key during the day. I might be able to help with this. David Smith __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com From jane at whiteoaks.com Tue May 13 18:19:09 2003 From: jane at whiteoaks.com (Jane Houston Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:20 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Speakers References: <006001c2ea9c$e23de4a0$1f0256d1@default> Message-ID: <3EC1998D.7010202@whiteoaks.com> Bob Havner wrote: > 6/14 Scott Sandford Stardust Mission (to be confirmed) > > 7/12 Open June is confirmed...Is July still open? Jane (working on the Ephemeris) -- Jane Houston Jones San Rafael, CA jane@whiteoaks.com http://www.whiteoaks.com From mojo at whiteoaks.com Wed May 14 00:41:13 2003 From: mojo at whiteoaks.com (Morris Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:20 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] last chance to proof the Ephemeris Message-ID: I know it's late, but in the next few hours, one or two of you might get to help proofread the June Ephemeris before it goes to the printer Wednesday morning. http://ephemeris.sjaa.net/0306/EphJun03.pdf Mojo -- Morris Jones <*> San Rafael, CA mojo@whiteoaks.com http://www.whiteoaks.com From jvn at svpal.org Wed May 14 01:44:18 2003 From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:20 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] last chance to proof the Ephemeris -- correction and addition References: Message-ID: <3EC201E2.4E86@svpal.org> Morris Jones wrote: > > I know it's late, but in the next few hours, one or two of you might > get to help proofread the June Ephemeris An error: June: > 21 Deep sky weekend. Sunset 8:31 p.m., 27% Moon rises 3:21 a.m. SHOULD be 45% moon rises 1:16 am. Also at the bottom of July: add: 25-26 Friday - Saturday: SJAA weekend at Yosemite National Park. The latter omission is my fault. -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association JVN's web site From north at znet.com Thu May 15 13:08:01 2003 From: north at znet.com (Dave North) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:20 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Membership Message-ID: Not much to report this month. Numbers dropped to 333 total listed, which is not statistically significant (down three). Good, solid numbers. We're coming into the June Sky&Tel rush, so anything is possible by this time next month. Dave From jvn at svpal.org Sat May 17 13:34:06 2003 From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:20 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Need projectors for tonight Message-ID: <3EC69CBE.7EA3@svpal.org> Hi, All, Norm will need the overhead and carousel projectors for tonight. I have already loaded the screen. Clear Skies! -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association JVN's web site From jvn at svpal.org Mon May 19 20:00:43 2003 From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:20 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Procedure for picking up Houge Park key; JVN absence Message-ID: <3EC93953.4316@svpal.org> Hi, All, Dave Smith has offered to manage the Houge Park key while I'm in Wisconsin May 21 - June 17. I'll send this to the list so that y'all know the procedure. I will be running my usual e-mail addresses, but will probably be slow to answer. I've taken care of the hotline, so I'll switch it to a newer message by remote control. Ray Hidalgo is the Houge Park Person, phone 408-369-1850. He handles reservations and checking out the key. When I returned the key earlier today, I told him that Dave will be doing the key for the next month. He said that he expects that the next pick-up will allow us to keep the key again! The bad news is that the restrooms are still wrongly keyed. In case he hasn't gotten permission to let us keep the key, in the examples below I include the business of returning the key. PROCEDURE: Ray is not always in the office, so phone first. The office is in Bldg.2 (the one with the restrooms). Take the sidewalk to the left (east) of the buildings. Near the south end of Bldg.2, still on the east wall, is a small door. Try it, but it's usually locked, so knock on it. He or another staffer will let you in and sign out or return the key. WHEN? We pick up the key on or the day before an event (class, ATM, star party, or general meeting), and return it the following business day. This means pick it up (say) for the Thursday ATM, hold it for the Friday and/or Saturday events, return it the following Monday. He's pretty liberal about it. May 22 -Th- ATM Class at Houge Park. 7:30 pm 23 -Fr- Astronomy Class at Houge Park. 7:30, subject TBA 23 -Fr- Houge Park star party. Sset 8:16 pm, 39% moon rises 2:56 am. Star party hours: 9:15 pm to midnight. SO: pick up May 22, return May 26 if he's there, else 27th. June 6 -Fr- Houge Park star party. Sset 8:25 pm, 43% moon sets 1:39 am. Star party hours: 9:30 pm to midnight. 7 -Sa- ATM Class at Houge Park. 7:30 pm SO: pick up June 6, return June 9. 14 -Sa- General Meeting at Houge Park: SO: pick up June 13, return June 16. I'll take it after that, if it's still necessary. OPENING: To open the building, use the key, enter and quickly stride across the room to the fire extinguisher. The alarm will usually detect you. Open the little white alarm panel by flipping down the front cover. Enter the 5-digit security code. It should chirp and change the red light to green. If not, after a few seconds, enter the code again. If the alarm is beeping, go ahead and enter the code, that will turn it off. You need the 5-digit code, but that should not be put it into a plain-text e-mail. For turning off the outside lights, someone must show you where and how to override the timer (in the back room). You can't turn off the lights until the timer has turned them on. CLOSING: Set the locks on both doors. On the control panel, enter # 2 (two button presses) and the light changes from green to red. If not, a door may be slightly open. After the indicator goes red, quickly turn off the room lights, go out the door and push it shut. There is enough time to cross the room, but it's quicker to use the back door. I don't know if it's 15 or 30 seconds or more until it squawks. Clear Skies! -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association JVN's web site From koopm at koopm.best.vwh.net Tue May 27 14:53:10 2003 From: koopm at koopm.best.vwh.net (Michael Koop) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:20 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Houge Key Message-ID: I spoke with Ray Hidalgo by phone this afternoon. He says that we can keep the key that Dave Smith picked up last Thursday. Ray also informed me that he is still working on getting the bathroom key replaced. I explained to him that we had about 100 people at Houge for the Star Party on Friday and got some requests to open the bathroom. He also informed me that Houge Park will have a "Teen Center" which will be open on Friday nights. They are also having the same problems as us with the bathrooms. Mike From RNAPO at znet.com Tue May 27 17:36:42 2003 From: RNAPO at znet.com (Rich N.) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:20 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Houge Key Message-ID: <000601c324b1$366b0320$6b52a7cf@pavilion> Hi Mike, Will the "Teen Center" people be using Houge on different Fridays than our star parties? What parking lot will the Teen Center people be using? Will we have a conflict with the parking lot and parking lot lights? Thanks, Rich >I spoke with Ray Hidalgo by phone this afternoon. >He says that we can keep the key that Dave Smith picked up last Thursday. >Ray also informed me that he is still working on getting the bathroom key >replaced. I explained to him that we had about 100 people at Houge for the >Star Party on Friday and got some requests to open the bathroom. He also >informed me that Houge Park will have a "Teen Center" which will be open >on Friday nights. They are also having the same problems as us with the >bathrooms. > >Mike > >_______________________________________________ >SJAABoard mailing list >SJAABoard@sjaa.net >http://www.sjaa.net/mailman/listinfo/sjaaboard From koopm at koopm.best.vwh.net Wed May 28 18:12:06 2003 From: koopm at koopm.best.vwh.net (Michael Koop) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:20 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Houge Key In-Reply-To: <000601c324b1$366b0320$6b52a7cf@pavilion> Message-ID: On Tue, 27 May 2003, Rich N. wrote: > Hi Mike, > > Will the "Teen Center" people be using Houge on different > Fridays than our star parties? > I think it will be open every Friday. The center was open at the last star party. They meet over in Building 2. We had our Beginning Astro class in Building 1. We did not even notice they were there. The Star Party got fogged out totally by 10 PM and we finally all left by 11 PM, they left before that. > What parking lot will the Teen Center people be using? > Will we have a conflict with the parking lot and parking lot lights? > The director of the park knows we turn off the lights. I don't know how many parking spots the Teen Center would take, but if you were a teen with a car, would you go to Houge for ping pong or pool? I suspect it is for local teens, most likely arriving by bicycle or foot. We will see how the star parties work coexisting with the teen center, but I don't see a problem yet. Clear Skies, Mike > Thanks, > Rich > > > >I spoke with Ray Hidalgo by phone this afternoon. > >He says that we can keep the key that Dave Smith picked up last Thursday. > >Ray also informed me that he is still working on getting the bathroom key > >replaced. I explained to him that we had about 100 people at Houge for the > >Star Party on Friday and got some requests to open the bathroom. He also > >informed me that Houge Park will have a "Teen Center" which will be open > >on Friday nights. They are also having the same problems as us with the > >bathrooms. > > > >Mike >