From wsnelson at concentric.net Fri Aug 1 23:32:21 2003
From: wsnelson at concentric.net (wendy&steve)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Projects for 50th year
Message-ID: <01c358bf$d4420480$LocalHost@crc3.concentric.net>
Board (& friends)
RE: Other 50th goals
The "observatory" discussion has been centered on "50th year" goals
for 'SJAA observing member' support. To me it seems clear that we are
really only talking about 1) minimal owned site, 2) minimal leased
access, or 3) no change. The limit is corporate income (re: Gary).
There are other 'public outreach' related projects that I would like to
propose for a goals list.
1) Evergreen Coll. Obs. formal agreement (docent training program)
2) School star party support van & equipment (grant supported)
3) School star party NASA TIE (Telescopes In Education) remote
telescope (grant supported)
1) Is to formalize a SJAA presence at EVC in the form of a small
commitment to run a 'docent training' program for mainly Jr. College
and High School student star party docents. (train fishers not
supply fish) Some of you got a page on this a couple of Board meetings
ago. This would have three goals - support for EVC public program.
support for SJAA school program, young SJAA member development.
('special projects' volunteer support could also be included).
2) JVN van will not last forever. We have a top class school program.
I am convinced that we can generate grant support to get a used van
and equip it with some 8" dobs and other school star party equipment.
Tied into EVC docent training equipment, this combo could make it
easier to a support 'hands on' experiences for students and young
members. Kiwannis, Packard Foundation, Rotary, Silicon Valley
Community Foundation and many other educational grant
organizations are interested in supporting educational efforts with
strong track records.
3) NASA through JPL has a program (TIE) to help set up robotic
small telescopes by renovating equipment at observatories. Wouldn't
a remote 16" w/ CCD at an old Lick dome be fun to access as part
of a school star party?
The 24" at Mt. Wilson was made available to classes as the first TIE
project. However time competition is nation-wide. A site agreement
with Lick might allow priority SJAA access for its school programs.
Such a project might be attractive to UC administration because it
directly supports UC outreach, particularly to 'underrepresented
community' schools.
-Directorship 'business' I will be vacationing down in San Diego
next week (miss next meeting) and got an invite to view their
remote site with 24" reflector. Business is business!
cheers
Steven N.
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From bhavner at earthlink.net Wed Aug 6 19:51:15 2003
From: bhavner at earthlink.net (Bob Havner)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Public Memorial Service for DR. GENE SCHMIDT
Message-ID: <001b01c35c8e$cf200740$fe631e43@default>
Terry Kahl asked me to forward this announcement to the board.
Public Memorial Service for
DR. GENE SCHMIDT
December 1, 1947 - July 26, 2003
Please join family and friends for a night of remembrance
WEDNESDAY AUGUST 13, 2003
7:00 PM
Villa Montalvo, Oval Garden
15400 Montalvo Road
Saratoga, California 95071
(408) 961-5800
Service by Father Charlie Prass, I.M.O.
(Gene's Uncle)
In Lieu of flowers, the family requests that donations be made for
commemorative to:
Eugene V. Schmidt MD Memorial Fund
CitiBank
12948 Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road
Saratoga, CA 95070-9965
Information Available at AAMG office (408) 293-7780 and memorial reception
Directions:
>From San Francisco:
Hwy 280 South. Exit Hwy 85 South. Drive 4.1 miles and exit at Saratoga
Avenue. Turn right onto Saratoga Avenue. Drive 1.8 miles to downtown
Saratoga. Turn slight left at light onto Hwy 9 / Saratoga - Los Gatos
Road. Drive 1/3 mile and turn right onto Montalvo Road. Continue 1 mile to
Montalvo grounds.
>From San Jose:
Hwy 280 North to Hwy 17 South. Take the second Los Gatos Exit (Los Gatos,
Saratoga, Hwy 9). Continue 3.5 miles. Turn left onto Montalvo Road.
Continue 1 mile to Montalvo grounds.
*********************
Some background info found at the Oconner website:
Eugene Schmidt M.D.
Specialty: Anesthesiology
Medical School: Univ. of Missouri -
Board Certification: Anesthesiology
Internship: St. John's Mercy Medical Center
Residency: Stanford Univ. Medical Center
Assoc. Anesthesiologists Medical Group
725 E. Santa Clara St.
San Jose CA 95112
(408) 293-7780
From wb6yru at aenet.net Wed Aug 6 23:24:36 2003
From: wb6yru at aenet.net (Gary Mitchell)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Public Memorial Service for DR. GENE SCHMIDT
References: <001b01c35c8e$cf200740$fe631e43@default>
Message-ID: <3F31F0A4.6D8@aenet.net>
Bob Havner wrote:
>
> Terry Kahl asked me to forward this announcement to the board.
>
> Public Memorial Service for
>
> DR. GENE SCHMIDT
> December 1, 1947 - July 26, 2003
He was a member of SJAA, (for anyone who didn't know).
Gary
From RNAPO at znet.com Thu Aug 7 04:00:59 2003
From: RNAPO at znet.com (Rich N.)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Public Memorial Service for DR. GENE SCHMIDT
Message-ID: <000e01c35cd3$30376f20$41102a42@pavilion>
I'm very sorry to hear this. It is hard to believe. I was thinking
of Gene today because the last time Mars was near several of us,
including Gene, were having a great time observing Mars just before
that big dust storm blew up on Mars. Gene was using his Takahashi
FS-102. It was giving excellent images of Mars. I was wondering if
he would be out with his telescope this month.
The last time I saw Gene was at Montebello, I believe in June.
His wife was with him. Gene was haveing a good time looking through
the telescopes. It was the first time I had really talked to his wife. She
told some very interesting stories of bears in Alaska.
Gene was gentleman. He had an great interest planetary and
double star observing. I looked forward to seeing him at our star
parties.
My sincere sympathy to Gene's family. When I see Mars I will think
of Gene.
Rich Neuschaefer
>Terry Kahl asked me to forward this announcement to the board.
>
>
>Public Memorial Service for
>
>DR. GENE SCHMIDT
>December 1, 1947 - July 26, 2003
>
>Please join family and friends for a night of remembrance
>
>WEDNESDAY AUGUST 13, 2003
>7:00 PM
>Villa Montalvo, Oval Garden
>15400 Montalvo Road
>Saratoga, California 95071
>(408) 961-5800
>
>Service by Father Charlie Prass, I.M.O.
>(Gene's Uncle)
>
>In Lieu of flowers, the family requests that donations be made for
>commemorative to:
>Eugene V. Schmidt MD Memorial Fund
>CitiBank
>12948 Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road
>Saratoga, CA 95070-9965
>Information Available at AAMG office (408) 293-7780 and memorial reception
>
>Directions:
>>From San Francisco:
>Hwy 280 South. Exit Hwy 85 South. Drive 4.1 miles and exit at Saratoga
>Avenue. Turn right onto Saratoga Avenue. Drive 1.8 miles to downtown
>Saratoga. Turn slight left at light onto Hwy 9 / Saratoga - Los Gatos
>Road. Drive 1/3 mile and turn right onto Montalvo Road. Continue 1 mile to
>Montalvo grounds.
>
>>From San Jose:
>Hwy 280 North to Hwy 17 South. Take the second Los Gatos Exit (Los Gatos,
>Saratoga, Hwy 9). Continue 3.5 miles. Turn left onto Montalvo Road.
>Continue 1 mile to Montalvo grounds.
>
>*********************
>
>Some background info found at the Oconner website:
>
>Eugene Schmidt M.D.
>Specialty: Anesthesiology
>Medical School: Univ. of Missouri -
>Board Certification: Anesthesiology
>Internship: St. John's Mercy Medical Center
>Residency: Stanford Univ. Medical Center
>Assoc. Anesthesiologists Medical Group
>725 E. Santa Clara St.
>San Jose CA 95112
>(408) 293-7780
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>SJAABoard mailing list
>SJAABoard@sjaa.net
>http://www.sjaa.net/mailman/listinfo/sjaaboard
From bhavner at earthlink.net Sat Aug 9 15:14:07 2003
From: bhavner at earthlink.net (Bob Havner)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] SJAA Board Meeting Minutes
Message-ID: <001201c35ec3$8e832960$22641e43@default>
Here are the board minutes for July. I will have printed copies at tonights
meeting.
SJAA Board Meeting Minutes
July 12, 2003
In Attendance: Mike Koop, Gary Mitchell, Dana Crom, Bill O'Shaughnessy, Jim
Van Nuland, Bob Havner, Craig Scull, Elena Scull, Steve Nelson, and Dave
Smith.
The minutes of the June meeting were approved
Treasurers Report: Gary Mitchell
Checking 6/13/03 $11437.56
Savings 6/16/03 $398.24
Money Market 6/05/03 2837.16
Insurance issues regarding exchange of insurance information for events.
Recommendation is for Cal-Star caterer to furnish copy of proof of
insurance.
Sky & Telescope price increase to $33 from $30 for 2004 renewals.
RASC handbooks and calendars, it was decided to get 30 handbooks and 25
calendars for the 2004 year.
Washington Mutual will re-establish whatever exemptions were apparently
dropped. This is in
regards to the recent notice they sent that there'd be a monthly $12 fee on
our checking account if it drops below $1500.
Payment of the Non-Profit registration fee to the Secretary of State, Ca. of
$20 was approved.
Membership Report: Dave North
342 current members
Loaner Scope Program: Mike Koop
It was reported that there have been many scope transfers recently, no
problems to report.
Observational astronomy class: Bob Havner
Still need instructors for class, Bill O'Shaughnessy will give his observing
stars class for July. Presentation for what?s up in the sky almost complete.
ATM Class Mike Koop
Well attended, Stone tools being prepared for tile or steel washer surfaces.
Dwight unable to attend and that left the class without test equipment. Mike
had to borrow a Foucault tester for the evening. There was a discussion on
weather the SJAA should invest in a Foucault tester.
General meeting program: Bob Havner
Tim Thompson to speak at the Aug meeting. Oct. 11 is the only date this year
still open. Mike to check on speaker from Lockheed Martin. Dr. Elinor Gates
has offered to speak at the 1/10/04 meeting.
Houge Park Star Parties: Mike Koop
Last HP lightly attended Mike reported good seeing but few telescopes.
Calendar: JVN
Jim has begun working on the 2004 calendar.
New Business
Mars opposition party to be on 8/28/03. EVC dates not set as of yet. There
was a discussion about publicity: Info should be on the SJAA web site as
well as in the science section of the Mercury.
Coyote Lake Park star party:
1st event this Saturday 7/19. Craig and Elena Scull offered to write an
article for the Ephemeris about the Coyote events.
Yosemite:
Due to the shortage of campsites available at Bridalveil campground it was
suggested the SJAA offer to compensate early arrivers that pay for
additional campsites. The motion was approved.
Cal Star
Caterer arrangements have been handled. Mark Wagner has completed the food
schedule.
50th Anniversary of the SJAA
12/2004 is the 50th Anniversary. Of the SJAA. It was suggested that there be
a event to commemorate this milestone. Mike is trying to get all back issues
of the Ephemeris to be made available on the website. All back to ?73 have
been collected so far.
Observatory
What goals do we want to set? Do we want to build an observatory of focus on
other projects.
Discussion had to be tabled due to lack of time.
Meeting adjourned at 7:55.
Bob Havner
bhavner@earthlink.net
From danac at pacbell.net Sat Aug 9 23:13:34 2003
From: danac at pacbell.net (Dana Crom)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] SJAA Board Meeting Minutes
In-Reply-To: <001201c35ec3$8e832960$22641e43@default> from "Bob Havner" at Aug
09, 2003 03:14:07 PM
Message-ID: <200308100613.XAA01202@pacbell.net>
Sort of a late note to the board - I had meant to get this out before the
meeting. Sorry about not making it - we had a last-minute reschedule of
my younger girl's 10th birthday party, originally scheduled for tomorrow
night.
Mea Culpa,
Dana Crom
--
------------------------+--------------------------------------------------
Dana Crom / "Malt does more than Milton can
danac@pacbell.net / To justify God's ways to man" A. E. Housman
San Jose, California / "Doubtless due to a wider audience" DLC
From wb6yru at aenet.net Sun Aug 10 01:04:09 2003
From: wb6yru at aenet.net (Gary Mitchell)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] SJAA Board Meeting Minutes
References: <001201c35ec3$8e832960$22641e43@default>
Message-ID: <3F35FC79.3DE6@aenet.net>
Bob Havner wrote:
>
> Here are the board minutes for July. I will have printed copies at tonights
> meeting.
>
> SJAA Board Meeting Minutes
> July 12, 2003
>
> In Attendance: Mike Koop, Gary Mitchell, Dana Crom, Bill O'Shaughnessy, Jim
> Van Nuland, Bob Havner, Craig Scull, Elena Scull, Steve Nelson, and Dave
> Smith.
>
> The minutes of the June meeting were approved
>
> Treasurers Report: Gary Mitchell
>
> Checking 6/13/03 $11437.56
> Savings 6/16/03 $398.24
> Money Market 6/05/03 2837.16
>
> Insurance issues regarding exchange of insurance information for events.
> Recommendation is for Cal-Star caterer to furnish copy of proof of
> insurance.
For the record... This isn't about proof of insurance. The
problem was that our insurance company wants us to get the
caterer's insurance company to issue this special documentation
of their insurance--listing us as an 'additional insured."
This can typically cost $25 every time, which I assume we'd have
to pay. We're supposed to do this with *every* vendor or person
we do business with. (I'd quit being treasurer before putting
up with this.)
I talked to them and they said that in cases like this (a
club having a catered star party) it's not mandatory, but
they'd still like us to do it.
Personally, I think we might want to consider changing to
another insurance company.
Gary
From jane at whiteoaks.com Mon Aug 11 23:32:17 2003
From: jane at whiteoaks.com (Jane Houston Jones)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Ephemeris notice
Message-ID: <3F3889F1.2050601@whiteoaks.com>
Hi board,
Gary sent this in a few weeks ago. Do you want it to run in September?
October? Both? Let us know on Tuesday.
Thanks! the editors
Sky & Telescope cost going up
As most of you know, SJAA members can get a substantial discount
on Sky & Telescope magazine by subscribing through the club. The
club rate has been $30 for a long time. Unfortunately, Sky
Publishing is raising the cost to $33. The good news is: this
continues to be $10 off their retail rate (which is going up too).
So, effective with S&T subscriptions that expire in 2004, club
membership with S&T will be $48, up from $45. Renewing early
won't matter--if your S&T subscription expires (or starts)
January 1, 2004 or later, you get the new rate. (SJAA membership
alone will remain at $15.)
SJAA doesn't make anything on club subscriptions, so we have
to pass the increase along. (Well, that's not exactly
true, the cost is actually $32.95, so the club gets a whopping
five cents.)
--
Jane Houston Jones
San Rafael, CA
jane@whiteoaks.com
http://www.whiteoaks.com
From wb6yru at aenet.net Tue Aug 12 00:37:55 2003
From: wb6yru at aenet.net (Gary Mitchell)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Ephemeris notice
References: <3F3889F1.2050601@whiteoaks.com>
Message-ID: <3F389953.6C73@aenet.net>
Jane Houston Jones wrote:
>
> Hi board,
>
> Gary sent this in a few weeks ago. Do you want it to run in September?
> October? Both? Let us know on Tuesday.
We probably only *have* to run it once, but I think twice
would a good idea (space permitting). How about running it
now (September), and then have a reminder in December?
Gary
> Thanks! the editors
>
> Sky & Telescope cost going up
>
> As most of you know, SJAA members can get a substantial discount
> on Sky & Telescope magazine by subscribing through the club. The
> club rate has been $30 for a long time. Unfortunately, Sky
> Publishing is raising the cost to $33. The good news is: this
> continues to be $10 off their retail rate (which is going up too).
>
> So, effective with S&T subscriptions that expire in 2004, club
> membership with S&T will be $48, up from $45. Renewing early
> won't matter--if your S&T subscription expires (or starts)
> January 1, 2004 or later, you get the new rate. (SJAA membership
> alone will remain at $15.)
>
> SJAA doesn't make anything on club subscriptions, so we have
> to pass the increase along. (Well, that's not exactly
> true, the cost is actually $32.95, so the club gets a whopping
> five cents.)
>
> --
> Jane Houston Jones
> San Rafael, CA
> jane@whiteoaks.com
> http://www.whiteoaks.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> SJAABoard mailing list
> SJAABoard@sjaa.net
> http://www.sjaa.net/mailman/listinfo/sjaaboard
From jane at whiteoaks.com Tue Aug 12 01:06:50 2003
From: jane at whiteoaks.com (Jane Houston Jones)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Ephemeris notice
References: <3F3889F1.2050601@whiteoaks.com> <3F389953.6C73@aenet.net>
Message-ID: <3F38A01A.8040002@whiteoaks.com>
Will do, space permitting.
Jane, waiting for Mars to clear the roof! :-)
Gary Mitchell wrote:
>Jane Houston Jones wrote:
>
>
>>Hi board,
>>
>>Gary sent this in a few weeks ago. Do you want it to run in September?
>> October? Both? Let us know on Tuesday.
>>
>>
>
>We probably only *have* to run it once, but I think twice
>would a good idea (space permitting). How about running it
>now (September), and then have a reminder in December?
>
>Gary
>
>
--
Jane Houston Jones
San Rafael, CA
jane@whiteoaks.com
http://www.whiteoaks.com
From mojo at whiteoaks.com Wed Aug 13 03:16:47 2003
From: mojo at whiteoaks.com (Morris Jones)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] short proofing period
Message-ID:
I'll have about 15 hours before I send the Ephemeris off to the printer.
If you have a chance to read it in this time, please tell me of any
grievous errors.
http://ephemeris.sjaa.net/0309/EphSep03.pdf
Mojo
--
Morris Jones <*>
San Rafael, CA
mojo@whiteoaks.com
http://www.whiteoaks.com
From wb6yru at aenet.net Wed Aug 20 01:32:07 2003
From: wb6yru at aenet.net (Gary Mitchell)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] SJAA's Aug. 27 Mars watch, best kept secret
Message-ID: <3F433207.6BDB@aenet.net>
SJAA is supposed to have its Mars event on August 27. It's
not in the Ephemeris calendar and I haven't seen any e-mail
announcements. The only mention of it I've heard (other than
at the board meeting and word of mouth) is a brief verbal
announcement at the last general meeting. Doesn't this deserve
better publicity than that? The sooner the better too--we've
only got one week to go.
In the Tuesday Mercury News, Science & Health section, there's
a Mars article and we got mentioned as one of the places to
view Mars this Friday, (our regular public star party), which
is great. However, there's nothing about our closest approach
night on the 27th! Is any attempt being made to have a notice
about that in the Mercury?
Gary
From bill at nineplanets.org Wed Aug 20 01:40:36 2003
From: bill at nineplanets.org (Bill Arnett)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] SJAA's Aug. 27 Mars watch, best kept secret
In-Reply-To: <3F433207.6BDB@aenet.net>
Message-ID:
On Wednesday, August 20, 2003, at 01:32 AM, Gary Mitchell wrote:
> SJAA is supposed to have its Mars event on August 27. It's
> not in the Ephemeris calendar and I haven't seen any e-mail
> announcements. The only mention of it I've heard (other than
> at the board meeting and word of mouth) is a brief verbal
> announcement at the last general meeting...
At least it's on our web site. :-)
--
Bill Arnett
bill@nineplanets.org http://nineplanets.org/
Emerald Hills CA USA 37 27 N 122 15 W
From jvn at svpal.org Wed Aug 20 22:51:29 2003
From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] SJAA's Aug. 27 Mars watch, best kept secret
References: <3F433207.6BDB@aenet.net>
Message-ID: <3F445DE1.5359@svpal.org>
Gary Mitchell wrote:
>
> SJAA is supposed to have its Mars event on August 27. It's
> not in the Ephemeris calendar and I haven't seen any e-mail
> announcements.
It's on the hot line, both phone and web. And there are LOTS of calls
coming! Sometimes it's running nearly continuously.
> In the Tuesday Mercury News, Science & Health section, there's
> a Mars article and we got mentioned as one of the places to
> view Mars this Friday, (our regular public star party), which
> is great. However, there's nothing about our closest approach
> night on the 27th!
It's in the AANC (Jane) list of dates and places. Funny the MercNuze
didn't pick up on it.
--
Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association
JVN's web site
From wb6yru at aenet.net Thu Aug 21 00:16:25 2003
From: wb6yru at aenet.net (Gary Mitchell)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] SJAA's Aug. 27 Mars watch, best kept secret
References: <3F433207.6BDB@aenet.net> <3F445DE1.5359@svpal.org>
Message-ID: <3F4471C9.51B7@aenet.net>
Jim Van Nuland wrote:
> Gary Mitchell wrote:
> >
> > SJAA is supposed to have its Mars event on August 27. It's
> > not in the Ephemeris calendar and I haven't seen any e-mail
> > announcements.
>
> It's on the hot line, both phone and web. And there are LOTS of calls
> coming! Sometimes it's running nearly continuously.
That's very good, but those require people to make a
specific effort to find out if we're doing something. We
should be using all means available, including SJAA's
announcement and school star party remailers. The
remailers might not inform the public, but they would help
assure plenty of scopes... especially since this event
wasn't in the newsletter, (a significant oversight, IMO).
> Funny the MercNuze didn't pick up on it.
Not surprising if we didn't send them a notice. Did we?
If not, we definitely should do so in time for their next
Science & Health section. If they don't print it, well,
at least we tried.
Let's make it a point to mention to people at the Friday
Houge Park star party that we'll be there on the 27th.
Word of mouth can bring many people too.
Gary
From bhavner at earthlink.net Thu Aug 21 06:26:55 2003
From: bhavner at earthlink.net (Bob Havner)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] SJAA's Aug. 27 Mars watch, best kept secret
Message-ID: <6792304.1061486825209.JavaMail.nobody@rowlf.psp.pas.earthlink.net>
FYI
I am including an announcement for the Aug 27th Mars party in my SJAA class announcement to be posted tonight.
-------Original Message-------
From: Gary Mitchell
Sent: 08/21/03 02:16 AM
To: jvn@svpal.org, sjaaboard@sjaa.net
Subject: Re: [SJAABoard] SJAA's Aug. 27 Mars watch, best kept secret
>
> Jim Van Nuland wrote:
> Gary Mitchell wrote:
> >
> > SJAA is supposed to have its Mars event on August 27. It's
> > not in the Ephemeris calendar and I haven't seen any e-mail
> > announcements.
>
> It's on the hot line, both phone and web. And there are LOTS of calls
> coming! Sometimes it's running nearly continuously.
That's very good, but those require people to make a
specific effort to find out if we're doing something. We
should be using all means available, including SJAA's
announcement and school star party remailers. The
remailers might not inform the public, but they would help
assure plenty of scopes... especially since this event
wasn't in the newsletter, (a significant oversight, IMO).
> Funny the MercNuze didn't pick up on it.
Not surprising if we didn't send them a notice. Did we?
If not, we definitely should do so in time for their next
Science & Health section. If they don't print it, well,
at least we tried.
Let's make it a point to mention to people at the Friday
Houge Park star party that we'll be there on the 27th.
Word of mouth can bring many people too.
Gary
_______________________________________________
SJAABoard mailing list
SJAABoard@sjaa.net
http://www.sjaa.net/mailman/listinfo/sjaaboard
>
Bob Havner
San Jose Astronomical Association
bhavner@earthlink.net
From mojo at whiteoaks.com Thu Aug 21 10:37:38 2003
From: mojo at whiteoaks.com (Morris Jones)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Re: August 27 Mars viewing
Message-ID:
Gary Mitchell wrote:
> especially since this event
> wasn't in the newsletter, (a significant oversight, IMO).
If you wanted it in the newsletter, you had to plan it before it
went to press.
The newsletter deadline is July 10. I gave you a proofreading day on
July 13. It went to Accuprint on July 14.
But you planned this event on July 24. See the archives of the
sjaaboard list:
http://www.whiteoaks.com/pipermail/sjaaboard/2003-July/001823.html
We're not of a mind to apologize for this one.
Mojo
--
Morris Jones <*>
San Rafael, CA
mojo@whiteoaks.com
http://www.whiteoaks.com
From jvn at svpal.org Thu Aug 21 14:58:41 2003
From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Re: August 27 Mars viewing
References:
Message-ID: <3F454091.3C0F@svpal.org>
Morris Jones wrote:
>
> Gary Mitchell wrote:
>
> > especially since this event
> > wasn't in the newsletter, (a significant oversight, IMO).
[snip]
> The newsletter deadline is July 10.
[snip]
> But you planned this event on July 24
[snip]
> We're not of a mind to apologize for this one.
Morris, you owe no apology. I don't feel Gary intended to blame you
and Jane for the omission. Clearly, you and Jane did your job. Anyone
pointing at you is wrong.
The oversight, if that's the word to use, is that the board did not
plan this even a month sooner. I didn't read Gary's comments as
intending to lay blame; rather, he's stating that it's too bad that the
Ephemeris and the Merc-News didn't carry the event.
Regarding publicity, Jane listed the date on her AANC Mars page, and
for reasons not known, the Merc-News didn't run it. Gary, it doesn't
pay to second-guess their editors; I'm glad there was a valid date and
phone number. That section of the paper rarely covers astronomy.
The hotline has been busy, MUCH more than usual. Bob will mention it
at the class on the 22nd. A notice will go to the SJAA and TAC lists.
People will know about it.
Clear skies (and calm demeanors)!
--
Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association
JVN's web site
From RNapo at znet.com Thu Aug 21 23:43:45 2003
From: RNapo at znet.com (Rich N.)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] SJAA's Aug. 27 Mars watch, best kept secret
Message-ID: <000601c36878$bcba5c40$63102a42@pavilion>
Has anyone checked to see if the sprinklers will be off
at Houge on Wed., Aug 27th?
How long can we stay at Houge the night of Aug 27th?
Mars doesn't transit until about 1:20 am. If the fog doesn't
cover the area, it would be a shame to have to put the scopes
away before Mars transits.
Thanks,
Rich
From jvn at svpal.org Fri Aug 22 00:38:41 2003
From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] SJAA's Aug. 27 Mars watch, best kept secret
References: <000601c36878$bcba5c40$63102a42@pavilion>
Message-ID: <3F45C881.163A@svpal.org>
Rich N. wrote:
>
> Has anyone checked to see if the sprinklers will be off
> at Houge on Wed., Aug 27th?
I just e-mailed the contact person at the park.
> How long can we stay at Houge the night of Aug 27th?
> Mars doesn't transit until about 1:20 am.
Mike might like to leave by midnight, and would want to turn the
lights on. We can find someone willing to stay until 2, or come back at
2 and turn on the lights.
Even so, we can stay longer; there's never been any objection to us
being there late.
--
Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association
JVN's web site
From RNapo at znet.com Fri Aug 22 00:49:38 2003
From: RNapo at znet.com (Rich N.)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] SJAA's Aug. 27 Mars watch, best kept secret
Message-ID: <00a401c36881$f0b26980$63102a42@pavilion>
Thanks, Jim!
Rich
>Rich N. wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone checked to see if the sprinklers will be off
>> at Houge on Wed., Aug 27th?
>
> I just e-mailed the contact person at the park.
>
>> How long can we stay at Houge the night of Aug 27th?
>> Mars doesn't transit until about 1:20 am.
>
> Mike might like to leave by midnight, and would want to turn the
>lights on. We can find someone willing to stay until 2, or come back at
>2 and turn on the lights.
>
> Even so, we can stay longer; there's never been any objection to us
>being there late.
>
>--
>Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association
>JVN's web site
>
>_______________________________________________
>SJAABoard mailing list
>SJAABoard@sjaa.net
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From wb6yru at aenet.net Fri Aug 22 02:43:19 2003
From: wb6yru at aenet.net (Gary Mitchell)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Re: August 27 Mars viewing
References:
<3F454091.3C0F@svpal.org>
Message-ID: <3F45E5B7.2BB9@aenet.net>
Jim Van Nuland wrote:
>
> Morris Jones wrote:
> > The newsletter deadline is July 10.
> [snip]
> > But you planned this event on July 24
> [snip]
> > We're not of a mind to apologize for this one.
>
> Morris, you owe no apology. I don't feel Gary intended to blame you
> and Jane for the omission.
Indeed. The editors can hardly be blamed for not publishing
information that never gets submitted. If I were blaming
someone, they'd know... I'm not very good at being subtle. :)
> The oversight, if that's the word to use, is that the board did not
> plan this even a month sooner. I didn't read Gary's comments as
> intending to lay blame; rather, he's stating that it's too bad that the
> Ephemeris and the Merc-News didn't carry the event.
We knew this was coming far enough in advance, it's not like
a comet that was just discovered or something. We could do
better, that's all I'm saying. (That's 'we' as in 'the board',
including me.)
Gary
From jane at whiteoaks.com Fri Aug 22 13:21:41 2003
From: jane at whiteoaks.com (Jane Houston Jones)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] SJAA mars publicity
References:
<3F454091.3C0F@svpal.org>
Message-ID: <3F467B55.3020201@whiteoaks.com>
If you google San Jose Mars viewing, you get the SJAA website first,
the Big Nor Cal list second, and the Merc list third. I think people
looking for San Jose Mars views will get to the right information. on
eway or the other. JHJ
--
Jane Houston Jones
San Rafael, CA
jane@whiteoaks.com
http://www.whiteoaks.com
From jane at whiteoaks.com Fri Aug 22 18:48:07 2003
From: jane at whiteoaks.com (Jane Houston Jones)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Mars - RSVP only at EVC?
Message-ID: <3F46C7D7.3040105@whiteoaks.com>
I read on TAC that the EVC Mars events are full. Does this mean that
people will be turned away? We all know what happens - lots of people
go to the places they think they'll see stuff .
Evergreen Valley College will be having Mars observing events at their
new observatory on Aug 28 & 30 and Sept 4 & 6. Due to limited space they
will be requiring reservations for observing times. Please call (408)
223-6784 to reserve a time. [JVN: they're full. Come to Houge on Aug.27
instead.]
Should we take them (EVC) off the lists of Mars viewing sites and the
SJAA website, or make a reference to the RSVP requirement and full problem.?
Let me know, for my bay area list.
Jane - off to a Mars observing event in SF, with slide show and Mars
globe on case of clouds, but it might actually be clear in SF tonight!
--
Jane Houston Jones
San Rafael, CA
jane@whiteoaks.com
http://www.whiteoaks.com
From jkirkbride at SFKMinistry.org Fri Aug 22 22:42:20 2003
From: jkirkbride at SFKMinistry.org (Jeffrey Kirkbride)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Mars - RSVP only at EVC?
In-Reply-To: <3F46C7D7.3040105@whiteoaks.com>
Message-ID:
Jane,
The slots for getting a look through the 2 "big" scopes (the TMB and the
C-14) are full. But when people call, they are supposed to be instructed
that there will be SEVEN OTHER telescopes there with excellent viewing
quality.
(Some possibly better than the "big" telescopes in the dome and the roll-off
roof building.)
If anybody calls in and is "turned away, that's not what has been supposed
to happen!!
I'd like to know exactly what was told.
There will probably be a lot of people on the Grand Opening as well at 3:30
pm on Sept 4. By all means we should have directions to TAC , AANC and other
SJAA (i.e. Houge) events available when people call that number.
That may be my neglect. Due to an injured left hand, I had to wait for help
this week (Wednesday) to even get the C-14's OTA on the mount.
Lots of other and sundry things to take care of (outside lighting!!!) which
is taking me in lots of "arenas".
I'll make sure to rectify this problem before the phones open on Monday.
Hope this solves the (answers the) question.
The next question is:
Knowing that the slots for using the C-14 and TMB are full on those 4
nights, do you think we
> should we take them (EVC) off the lists of Mars viewing sites and the
> SJAA website, or make a reference to the RSVP requirement and full problem.?
>
That question is one for the BOD of SJAA and others to decide.
We decided to use the "reservations" system after canvassing SJAA and from
Akkana's experience at Foothill and Rem's experience at Lick for "the big"
events.
Hope we made the right decision.
Jeffrey Kirkbride
____________________________________________________________________________
______
On 8/22/03 6:48 PM, "Jane Houston Jones" wrote:
> I read on TAC that the EVC Mars events are full. Does this mean that
> people will be turned away? We all know what happens - lots of people
> go to the places they think they'll see stuff .
>
> Evergreen Valley College will be having Mars observing events at their
> new observatory on Aug 28 & 30 and Sept 4 & 6. Due to limited space they
> will be requiring reservations for observing times. Please call (408)
> 223-6784 to reserve a time. [JVN: they're full. Come to Houge on Aug.27
> instead.]
>
> Should we take them (EVC) off the lists of Mars viewing sites and the
> SJAA website, or make a reference to the RSVP requirement and full problem.?
>
> Let me know, for my bay area list.
>
> Jane - off to a Mars observing event in SF, with slide show and Mars
> globe on case of clouds, but it might actually be clear in SF tonight!
From wb6yru at aenet.net Sat Aug 23 03:03:35 2003
From: wb6yru at aenet.net (Gary Mitchell)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] SJAA mars publicity
References:
<3F454091.3C0F@svpal.org> <3F467B55.3020201@whiteoaks.com>
Message-ID: <3F473BF7.3C88@aenet.net>
Jane Houston Jones wrote:
>
> If you google San Jose Mars viewing, you get the SJAA website first,
> the Big Nor Cal list second, and the Merc list third. I think people
> looking for San Jose Mars views will get to the right information. on
> eway or the other. JHJ
That's good to know.
We got mentioned in Tuesday's Mercury Science section as one
of the places to see Mars. We had one of the best turn-outs
at Houge I've ever seen. :)
Gary
From danac at pacbell.net Sat Aug 23 13:50:38 2003
From: danac at pacbell.net (Dana Crom)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] All Mars News Website Opportunity (fwd)
Message-ID: <200308232050.NAA01277@pacbell.net>
I got this email (probably because I've mentioned SJAA a time or two on
sci.astro.amateur). Don't know anything more about this than they're
offering the site. I'm a bit skeptical, but thought it wouldn't hurt
to pass it on.
Dana
> From xxxxxxxxxx@aol.com Thu Aug 21 22:41:52 2003
> From: xxxxxxxxxx@aol.com
> X-Originating-IP: [152.163.225.103]
> Message-ID: <156.235ba682.2c7704f6@aol.com>
> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 01:32:38 EDT
> Subject: All Mars News Website Opportunity
> To: danac@pacbell.net
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28
>
> Dear Dana:
>
> I strongly support the great work of your astronomy club.
>
> I want to get the word out to your members about a fully functional branded
> news website on Mars - www.MarsorBust.com - which is currently offered on ebay:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2552191737
>
> This would be a great opportunity for an organization or individuals wanting
> to develop a strong internet presence for promoting developments in the manned
> and unmanned exploration of Mars.
>
> Please circulate this opportunity to your organization members.
>
> With kind regards,
>
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
--
------------------------+--------------------------------------------------
Dana Crom / "Malt does more than Milton can
danac@pacbell.net / To justify God's ways to man" A. E. Housman
San Jose, California / "Doubtless due to a wider audience" DLC
From mojo at whiteoaks.com Sat Aug 23 13:54:22 2003
From: mojo at whiteoaks.com (Morris Jones)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] All Mars News Website Opportunity (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <200308232050.NAA01277@pacbell.net>
Message-ID:
It's a bit of spam. I got three or four copies of it myself.
Mojo
On Sat, 23 Aug 2003, Dana Crom wrote:
> I got this email (probably because I've mentioned SJAA a time or two on
> sci.astro.amateur). Don't know anything more about this than they're
> offering the site. I'm a bit skeptical, but thought it wouldn't hurt
> to pass it on.
>
> Dana
>
> > From xxxxxxxxxx@aol.com Thu Aug 21 22:41:52 2003
> > From: xxxxxxxxxx@aol.com
> > X-Originating-IP: [152.163.225.103]
> > Message-ID: <156.235ba682.2c7704f6@aol.com>
> > Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 01:32:38 EDT
> > Subject: All Mars News Website Opportunity
> > To: danac@pacbell.net
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> > X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28
> >
> > Dear Dana:
> >
> > I strongly support the great work of your astronomy club.
> >
> > I want to get the word out to your members about a fully functional branded
> > news website on Mars - www.MarsorBust.com - which is currently offered on ebay:
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2552191737
> >
> > This would be a great opportunity for an organization or individuals wanting
> > to develop a strong internet presence for promoting developments in the manned
> > and unmanned exploration of Mars.
> >
> > Please circulate this opportunity to your organization members.
> >
> > With kind regards,
> >
> > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
>
>
>
--
Morris Jones <*>
San Rafael, CA
mojo@whiteoaks.com
http://www.whiteoaks.com
From danac at pacbell.net Sat Aug 23 14:02:24 2003
From: danac at pacbell.net (Dana Crom)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] All Mars News Website Opportunity (fwd)
In-Reply-To:
from
"Morris Jones" at Aug 23, 2003 01:54:22 PM
Message-ID: <200308232102.OAA01378@pacbell.net>
>
> It's a bit of spam. I got three or four copies of it myself.
>
> Mojo
>
> On Sat, 23 Aug 2003, Dana Crom wrote:
>
> > I got this email (probably because I've mentioned SJAA a time or two on
> > sci.astro.amateur). Don't know anything more about this than they're
> > offering the site. I'm a bit skeptical, but thought it wouldn't hurt
> > to pass it on.
> >
> > Dana
"Pfui", as Nero Wolfe would say. Guess I was right to be suspicious.
Dana
--
------------------------+--------------------------------------------------
Dana Crom / "Malt does more than Milton can
danac@pacbell.net / To justify God's ways to man" A. E. Housman
San Jose, California / "Doubtless due to a wider audience" DLC
From craigus at rocketmail.com Sat Aug 23 16:29:18 2003
From: craigus at rocketmail.com (Craig Scull)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Mars - RSVP only at EVC?
In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <20030823232918.13646.qmail@web13606.mail.yahoo.com>
Hi Jeffrey
Please call the number listed below for the EVC viewing
reservation message we're talking about: 223-6784
The wording quite unambiguously states that all observing
sessions are "full" and then the caller is invited to
make a request for viewing arrangements for special
groups on a future date. The message must have been this
way for some time, as my coworkers at Cisco more than a
week ago told me the event was "all full" also.
There are probably enough observing opportunities going
on in the area to where the EVC miscommunication will not
actually cause any lost opportunities for the public, so
I don't think there is any harm in this. Nevertheless,
you might want to correct the message.
steady skies,
Craig
--- Jeffrey Kirkbride wrote:
> Jane,
>
> The slots for getting a look through the 2 "big" scopes
> (the TMB and the
> C-14) are full. But when people call, they are supposed
> to be instructed
> that there will be SEVEN OTHER telescopes there with
> excellent viewing
> quality.
>
> (Some possibly better than the "big" telescopes in the
> dome and the roll-off
> roof building.)
>
> If anybody calls in and is "turned away, that's not
> what has been supposed
> to happen!!
>
> I'd like to know exactly what was told.
>
> There will probably be a lot of people on the Grand
> Opening as well at 3:30
> pm on Sept 4. By all means we should have directions to
> TAC , AANC and other
> SJAA (i.e. Houge) events available when people call
> that number.
>
> That may be my neglect. Due to an injured left hand, I
> had to wait for help
> this week (Wednesday) to even get the C-14's OTA on the
> mount.
>
> Lots of other and sundry things to take care of
> (outside lighting!!!) which
> is taking me in lots of "arenas".
>
> I'll make sure to rectify this problem before the
> phones open on Monday.
>
> Hope this solves the (answers the) question.
>
> The next question is:
> Knowing that the slots for using the C-14 and TMB are
> full on those 4
> nights, do you think we
> > should we take them (EVC) off the lists of Mars
> viewing sites and the
> > SJAA website, or make a reference to the RSVP
> requirement and full problem.?
> >
>
> That question is one for the BOD of SJAA and others to
> decide.
>
> We decided to use the "reservations" system after
> canvassing SJAA and from
> Akkana's experience at Foothill and Rem's experience at
> Lick for "the big"
> events.
>
> Hope we made the right decision.
>
> Jeffrey Kirkbride
>
>
____________________________________________________________________________
> ______
>
>
> On 8/22/03 6:48 PM, "Jane Houston Jones"
> wrote:
>
> > I read on TAC that the EVC Mars events are full.
> Does this mean that
> > people will be turned away? We all know what happens
> - lots of people
> > go to the places they think they'll see stuff .
> >
> > Evergreen Valley College will be having Mars
> observing events at their
> > new observatory on Aug 28 & 30 and Sept 4 & 6. Due to
> limited space they
> > will be requiring reservations for observing times.
> Please call (408)
> > 223-6784 to reserve a time. [JVN: they're full. Come
> to Houge on Aug.27
> > instead.]
> >
> > Should we take them (EVC) off the lists of Mars
> viewing sites and the
> > SJAA website, or make a reference to the RSVP
> requirement and full problem.?
> >
> > Let me know, for my bay area list.
> >
> > Jane - off to a Mars observing event in SF, with
> slide show and Mars
> > globe on case of clouds, but it might actually be
> clear in SF tonight!
>
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From RNapo at znet.com Sun Aug 24 17:04:44 2003
From: RNapo at znet.com (Rich N.)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Mars - at EVC?
Message-ID: <005a01c36a9c$7e3a53a0$66102a42@pavilion>
Hi folks,
I signed up to have my scope at both of the Thursday EVC Mars programs.
* What time should we be at Evergreen College this Thursday?
* Is there anything special we need to do when we get to EVC?
* Special parking passes?
* Anything else?
* Do we drive up to the little parking lot near the observatory?
Thanks,
Rich
From koopm at koopm.best.vwh.net Sun Aug 24 17:33:35 2003
From: koopm at koopm.best.vwh.net (Michael Koop)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Mars - at EVC?
In-Reply-To: <005a01c36a9c$7e3a53a0$66102a42@pavilion>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030824173243.00a07ec0@koopm.best.vwh.net>
Hi Rich,
I'll have answers for you soon.
Look for a post by Monday evening.
Mike
At 05:04 PM 8/24/03 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi folks,
>
>I signed up to have my scope at both of the Thursday EVC Mars programs.
>
>* What time should we be at Evergreen College this Thursday?
>* Is there anything special we need to do when we get to EVC?
>* Special parking passes?
>* Anything else?
>* Do we drive up to the little parking lot near the observatory?
>
>Thanks,
>Rich
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>SJAABoard mailing list
>SJAABoard@sjaa.net
>http://www.sjaa.net/mailman/listinfo/sjaaboard
From jvn at svpal.org Mon Aug 25 00:47:18 2003
From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Off-list -- Mars at EVC?
References: <005a01c36a9c$7e3a53a0$66102a42@pavilion>
Message-ID: <3F49BF06.7F73@svpal.org>
Rich N. wrote:
> I signed up to have my scope at both of the Thursday EVC Mars programs.
Thank you! I now have 7 or 8 scopes for each evening except Sep.6,
where I have only 3. I expect to be at the first three.
I don't know what Mike will reply, so this is my understanding of the
rules. Basically, we can do what we feel is best, but not block the
left side of the road as golf carts will be bringing up some of the
customers. Mike may want to be more formal that I would.
> * What time should we be at Evergreen College this Thursday?
The crowd starts at 9. I'd like to be there much earlier, 7 or so, to
work out just where to set scopes and where to park. We may park on the
dirt east of the road, or on the road if we fit there. I'll have my
curb blocks.
But there is a spot we've reserved for your scope, at the east end of
the sidewalk at the top of the hill. It may be best if you park over on
the dirt, but that's to be decided Wednesday.
> * Is there anything special we need to do when we get to EVC?
Follow the directions on my current events page (below). After that
it depends on when Jeff gets the gate open.
> * Special parking passes?
I believe we will be given some, but simply go up the loop road to the
observatory. We park up there, the customers park below in the main
lot.
--
Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association
Directions
From jkirkbride at SFKMinistry.org Mon Aug 25 02:10:26 2003
From: jkirkbride at SFKMinistry.org (Jeffrey Kirkbride)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Off-list -- Mars at EVC?
In-Reply-To: <3F49BF06.7F73@svpal.org>
Message-ID:
Jim. Rich et al.
The crowd is not supposed to start until 9:30 pm.
At least that's what the flyer says.
But we may have people coming in before that.
Mars sure is bright right now at 2 am. Wow.
Jeffrey
On 8/25/03 12:47 AM, "Jim Van Nuland" wrote:
>
>
>> * What time should we be at Evergreen College this Thursday?
>
> The crowd starts at 9. I'd like to be there much earlier, 7 or so, to
> work out just where to set scopes and where to park. We may park on the
> dirt east of the road, or on the road if we fit there. I'll have my
> curb blocks.
>
> But there is a spot we've reserved for your scope, at the east end of
> the sidewalk at the top of the hill. It may be best if you park over on
> the dirt, but that's to be decided Wednesday.
>
>>
From wb6yru at aenet.net Mon Aug 25 21:34:31 2003
From: wb6yru at aenet.net (Gary Mitchell)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Off-list -- Mars at EVC?
References: <005a01c36a9c$7e3a53a0$66102a42@pavilion>
<3F49BF06.7F73@svpal.org>
Message-ID: <3F4AE357.412A@aenet.net>
Jim Van Nuland wrote:
>
> Rich N. wrote:
>
> > I signed up to have my scope at both of the Thursday EVC Mars programs.
>
> Thank you! I now have 7 or 8 scopes for each evening except Sep.6,
> where I have only 3. I expect to be at the first three.
About that... There's a limit as to how many of us can be
there each night, (was it five, or seven?). Am I correct
in assuming we'll be told which days each of us should go?
Gary
From RNapo at znet.com Mon Aug 25 23:35:38 2003
From: RNapo at znet.com (Rich N.)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Off-list -- Mars at EVC?
Message-ID: <002e01c36b9c$4c0d0de0$70102a42@pavilion>
Hi Jeffrey,
It is your party. Do you want us there at 7pm?
When you be there?
Is there anything else we need to know?
Thanks,
Rich
>Jim. Rich et al.
>
>The crowd is not supposed to start until 9:30 pm.
>At least that's what the flyer says.
>But we may have people coming in before that.
>
>Mars sure is bright right now at 2 am. Wow.
>
>Jeffrey
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On 8/25/03 12:47 AM, "Jim Van Nuland" wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>> * What time should we be at Evergreen College this Thursday?
>>
>> The crowd starts at 9. I'd like to be there much earlier, 7 or so, to
>> work out just where to set scopes and where to park. We may park on the
>> dirt east of the road, or on the road if we fit there. I'll have my
>> curb blocks.
>>
>> But there is a spot we've reserved for your scope, at the east end of
>> the sidewalk at the top of the hill. It may be best if you park over on
>> the dirt, but that's to be decided Wednesday.
>>
>>>
>
>
>
>
>
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From RNapo at znet.com Mon Aug 25 23:39:26 2003
From: RNapo at znet.com (Rich N.)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Off-list -- Mars at EVC?
Message-ID: <003101c36b9c$cd76efe0$70102a42@pavilion>
>Rich N. wrote:
>
>> I signed up to have my scope at both of the Thursday EVC Mars programs.
>
> Thank you! I now have 7 or 8 scopes for each evening except Sep.6,
>where I have only 3. I expect to be at the first three.
Hi Jim,
You're very welcome.
I sent a reply to your request for scopes at EVC the day I received it.
The same for the note Mike sent out.
>
> I don't know what Mike will reply, so this is my understanding of the
>rules. Basically, we can do what we feel is best, but not block the
>left side of the road as golf carts will be bringing up some of the
>customers. Mike may want to be more formal that I would.
>
>> * What time should we be at Evergreen College this Thursday?
>
> The crowd starts at 9. I'd like to be there much earlier, 7 or so, to
>work out just where to set scopes and where to park. We may park on the
>dirt east of the road, or on the road if we fit there. I'll have my
>curb blocks.
>
> But there is a spot we've reserved for your scope, at the east end of
>the sidewalk at the top of the hill. It may be best if you park over on
>the dirt, but that's to be decided Wednesday.
Thank you!
>
>> * Is there anything special we need to do when we get to EVC?
>
> Follow the directions on my current events page (below). After that
>it depends on when Jeff gets the gate open.
>
>> * Special parking passes?
>
> I believe we will be given some, but simply go up the loop road to the
>observatory. We park up there, the customers park below in the main
>lot.
Thanks jim. It sounds as you aren't sure. I was thinking Jeffrey
would be answering these questions since it is his event and
he a part of EVC.
Clear skies,
Rich
>
>--
>Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association
>Directions
>
>_______________________________________________
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From RNapo at znet.com Mon Aug 25 23:48:48 2003
From: RNapo at znet.com (Rich N.)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Off-list -- Mars at EVC?
Message-ID: <004001c36b9e$1ae62100$70102a42@pavilion>
>Jim Van Nuland wrote:
>>
>> Rich N. wrote:
>>
>> > I signed up to have my scope at both of the Thursday EVC Mars programs.
>>
>> Thank you! I now have 7 or 8 scopes for each evening except Sep.6,
>> where I have only 3. I expect to be at the first three.
>
>About that... There's a limit as to how many of us can be
>there each night, (was it five, or seven?). Am I correct
>in assuming we'll be told which days each of us should go?
>
>Gary
Hi Gary,
>"Am I correct in assuming we'll be told which days each of us should go?"
That is not what I'm expecting. We were given four dates to pick from.
I picked the two Thursdays. I would not expect be told at this late date
not to come Thursday and show up on Saturday (a date I didn't pick).
Rich
From jkirkbride at SFKMinistry.org Tue Aug 26 10:17:19 2003
From: jkirkbride at SFKMinistry.org (Jeffrey Kirkbride)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Off-list -- Mars at EVC?
In-Reply-To: <003101c36b9c$cd76efe0$70102a42@pavilion>
Message-ID:
Free parking for all astronomers from 6 pm onward all 4 nights.
Free parking for the public in general from 9 pm onwards all 4 nights.
First "tickets" to see the "big" telescopes begin at 9:30 pm.
Everyone (public and astronomers welcome even before that. But the Roll-off
roof and the dome will open to the public "tickets" at 9:30 pm for views of
Mars.
The gate has not been closed since August 3.
We will have it open all day for SJAA astronomers until/unless we get too
big a crowd down below.
I'll be there at 6 pm each of the 4 nights.
Jeffrey
On 8/25/03 11:39 PM, "Rich N." wrote:
>> Rich N. wrote:
>>
>>> I signed up to have my scope at both of the Thursday EVC Mars programs.
>>
>> Thank you! I now have 7 or 8 scopes for each evening except Sep.6,
>> where I have only 3. I expect to be at the first three.
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> You're very welcome.
>
> I sent a reply to your request for scopes at EVC the day I received it.
> The same for the note Mike sent out.
>
>>
>> I don't know what Mike will reply, so this is my understanding of the
>> rules. Basically, we can do what we feel is best, but not block the
>> left side of the road as golf carts will be bringing up some of the
>> customers. Mike may want to be more formal that I would.
>>
>>> * What time should we be at Evergreen College this Thursday?
>>
>> The crowd starts at 9. I'd like to be there much earlier, 7 or so, to
>> work out just where to set scopes and where to park. We may park on the
>> dirt east of the road, or on the road if we fit there. I'll have my
>> curb blocks.
>>
>> But there is a spot we've reserved for your scope, at the east end of
>> the sidewalk at the top of the hill. It may be best if you park over on
>> the dirt, but that's to be decided Wednesday.
>
> Thank you!
>
>>
>>> * Is there anything special we need to do when we get to EVC?
>>
>> Follow the directions on my current events page (below). After that
>> it depends on when Jeff gets the gate open.
>>
>>> * Special parking passes?
>>
>> I believe we will be given some, but simply go up the loop road to the
>> observatory. We park up there, the customers park below in the main
>> lot.
>
> Thanks jim. It sounds as you aren't sure. I was thinking Jeffrey
> would be answering these questions since it is his event and
> he a part of EVC.
>
> Clear skies,
> Rich
>
>
>
>>
>> --
>> Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association
>> Directions
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SJAABoard mailing list
>> SJAABoard@sjaa.net
>> http://www.sjaa.net/mailman/listinfo/sjaaboard
>
>
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From jkirkbride at SFKMinistry.org Tue Aug 26 10:18:45 2003
From: jkirkbride at SFKMinistry.org (Jeffrey Kirkbride)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Off-list -- Mars at EVC?
In-Reply-To: <3F4AE357.412A@aenet.net>
Message-ID:
In addition to the 2 built -in instruments, we've asked SJAA to supply 7
other telescopes each of the 4 nights.
Jefffrey
On 8/25/03 9:34 PM, "Gary Mitchell" wrote:
> Jim Van Nuland wrote:
>>
>> Rich N. wrote:
>>
>>> I signed up to have my scope at both of the Thursday EVC Mars programs.
>>
>> Thank you! I now have 7 or 8 scopes for each evening except Sep.6,
>> where I have only 3. I expect to be at the first three.
>
> About that... There's a limit as to how many of us can be
> there each night, (was it five, or seven?). Am I correct
> in assuming we'll be told which days each of us should go?
>
> Gary
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> SJAABoard@sjaa.net
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From RNapo at znet.com Tue Aug 26 10:29:23 2003
From: RNapo at znet.com (Rich N.)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Off-list -- Mars at EVC?
Message-ID: <003601c36bf7$97e0eba0$91102a42@pavilion>
Thanks, Jeffrey!
See you Thursday.
Rich
>Free parking for all astronomers from 6 pm onward all 4 nights.
>
>Free parking for the public in general from 9 pm onwards all 4 nights.
>
>First "tickets" to see the "big" telescopes begin at 9:30 pm.
>
>Everyone (public and astronomers welcome even before that. But the Roll-off
>roof and the dome will open to the public "tickets" at 9:30 pm for views of
>Mars.
>
>The gate has not been closed since August 3.
>
>We will have it open all day for SJAA astronomers until/unless we get too
>big a crowd down below.
>
>I'll be there at 6 pm each of the 4 nights.
>
>Jeffrey
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On 8/25/03 11:39 PM, "Rich N." wrote:
>
>>> Rich N. wrote:
>>>
>>>> I signed up to have my scope at both of the Thursday EVC Mars programs.
>>>
>>> Thank you! I now have 7 or 8 scopes for each evening except Sep.6,
>>> where I have only 3. I expect to be at the first three.
>>
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>> You're very welcome.
>>
>> I sent a reply to your request for scopes at EVC the day I received it.
>> The same for the note Mike sent out.
>>
>>>
>>> I don't know what Mike will reply, so this is my understanding of the
>>> rules. Basically, we can do what we feel is best, but not block the
>>> left side of the road as golf carts will be bringing up some of the
>>> customers. Mike may want to be more formal that I would.
>>>
>>>> * What time should we be at Evergreen College this Thursday?
>>>
>>> The crowd starts at 9. I'd like to be there much earlier, 7 or so, to
>>> work out just where to set scopes and where to park. We may park on the
>>> dirt east of the road, or on the road if we fit there. I'll have my
>>> curb blocks.
>>>
>>> But there is a spot we've reserved for your scope, at the east end of
>>> the sidewalk at the top of the hill. It may be best if you park over on
>>> the dirt, but that's to be decided Wednesday.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>>>
>>>> * Is there anything special we need to do when we get to EVC?
>>>
>>> Follow the directions on my current events page (below). After that
>>> it depends on when Jeff gets the gate open.
>>>
>>>> * Special parking passes?
>>>
>>> I believe we will be given some, but simply go up the loop road to the
>>> observatory. We park up there, the customers park below in the main
>>> lot.
>>
>> Thanks jim. It sounds as you aren't sure. I was thinking Jeffrey
>> would be answering these questions since it is his event and
>> he a part of EVC.
>>
>> Clear skies,
>> Rich
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association
>>> Directions
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SJAABoard mailing list
>>> SJAABoard@sjaa.net
>>> http://www.sjaa.net/mailman/listinfo/sjaaboard
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From wb6yru at aenet.net Tue Aug 26 16:03:47 2003
From: wb6yru at aenet.net (Gary Mitchell)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] SJAA Mars showing on Aug. 27
Message-ID: <3F4BE753.2FCF@aenet.net>
The Mercury news had an article today (Tuesday) about places
to observe Mars. They apparently decided to limit it to the
more "established" observing sites (observatories, etc).
However, they included Jane's web site, and our Aug. 27 Mars
party is listed there. That's not quite the same as being
mentioned directly, but better than nothing. We should have
a good turn-out... Now all we need is for the clouds to stay
away.
Gary
From RNapo at znet.com Wed Aug 27 13:46:06 2003
From: RNapo at znet.com (Rich N.)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Sprinklers tonight at Houge???
Message-ID: <002b01c36cdc$3d7ccd60$64102a42@pavilion>
Hi folks,
Has the problem of sprinklers coming on at Houge Park
been fixed for tonight (Wed)?
I want to support your program at Houge tonight but I also
don't want my telescope getting all wet from the lawn sprinklers.
Thanks,
Rich
From jvn at svpal.org Wed Aug 27 14:14:47 2003
From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Sprinklers tonight at Houge???
References: <002b01c36cdc$3d7ccd60$64102a42@pavilion>
Message-ID: <3F4D1F47.921@svpal.org>
Rich N. wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Has the problem of sprinklers coming on at Houge Park
> been fixed for tonight (Wed)?
I asked the new in-charge-at-the-park person (Angel something), and he
called later to say that he'd talked to the water person. That was
easrlier today. I mentioned that we'd be there later, well after 1 am.
So all we can do is hope that the message got all the way through.
Clear Skies!
--
Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association
JVN's web site
From RNapo at znet.com Wed Aug 27 14:34:45 2003
From: RNapo at znet.com (Rich N.)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Sprinklers tonight at Houge???
Message-ID: <002601c36ce3$0952c060$66102a42@pavilion>
Hi Jim,
I don't like relying on "hope" that a message got through.
If you guys want support for your events there needs to be
confirmation that the sprinklers will be off.
I was lucky the electronics in my very wet controler pad didn't
get hurt last friday when the sprinklers came on. Depending on
the telescope, a sprinkler could shoot water right on to the optics.
If last Friday wasn't the first time the SJAA has had a problem
with lawn sprinklers coming on at Houge. I take this problem
seriously. When someone tells me they "hope" things doesn't
make me think this issue is being taken seriously.
Rich
>Rich N. wrote:
>>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Has the problem of sprinklers coming on at Houge Park
>> been fixed for tonight (Wed)?
>
> I asked the new in-charge-at-the-park person (Angel something), and he
>called later to say that he'd talked to the water person. That was
>easrlier today. I mentioned that we'd be there later, well after 1 am.
>
> So all we can do is hope that the message got all the way through.
>
>Clear Skies!
>
>--
>Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association
>JVN's web site
>
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From bill at nineplanets.org Wed Aug 27 14:52:48 2003
From: bill at nineplanets.org (Bill Arnett)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Sprinklers tonight at Houge???
In-Reply-To: <002601c36ce3$0952c060$66102a42@pavilion>
Message-ID:
Why don't we just get some bricks to put on top of the sprinklers while
we are there?
--
Bill Arnett
bill@nineplanets.org http://nineplanets.org/
Emerald Hills CA USA 37 27 N 122 15 W
From jvn at svpal.org Wed Aug 27 15:35:11 2003
From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:21 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Sprinklers tonight at Houge???
References: <002601c36ce3$0952c060$66102a42@pavilion>
Message-ID: <3F4D321F.27F9@svpal.org>
Rich N. wrote:
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> I don't like relying on "hope" that a message got through.
>
> If you guys want support for your events there needs to be
> confirmation that the sprinklers will be off.
The only way to do that is for us to have a kill switch. Last Friday,
Mike Koop said that he will work on getting it. I'm to keep the
scheduling task.
Today, Angel called me about mid-morning to verify that we will be
there tonight. I told him yes, then I asked if he could check on the
sprinklers, as we'll be there well after midnight. I suppose I should
have said 2 am.
He called back a bit later to say that he'd talked to the fellow in
charge and that it was taken care of. I suppose I should have asked him
exactly what times.
> When someone tells me they "hope" things doesn't
> make me think this issue is being taken seriously.
At some point we must have faith that someone has done the job. If we
can get a kill switch, we'll have more confidence, but even then,
something can go wrong. We can see the lights go off. We can't see the
sprinklers NOT go on.
> I was lucky the electronics in my very wet controller pad didn't
> get hurt last Friday when the sprinklers came on. Depending on
> the telescope, a sprinkler could shoot water right on to the optics.
Glad it survived! My own hand box is a simple metal shell, not at all
water resistant.
Bill Arnett wrote:
> Why don't we just get some bricks to put on top of the sprinklers while
> we are there?
An upturned bucket and a cinder block? There'd still be water on the
sidewalk. Or would the block be enough weight to prevent the pop-up?
I'd bring some along but for the real danger that people might trip over
them.
--
Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association
JVN's web site
From RNapo at znet.com Wed Aug 27 15:48:14 2003
From: RNapo at znet.com (Rich N.)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Sprinklers tonight at Houge???
Message-ID: <006501c36ced$4d36ecc0$66102a42@pavilion>
The SJAA Board needs to consider the trip hazard created by
some (all?) sprinkler blocking devices. A bucket or cinder block
sitting on a sprinkler while the public is walking around in the dark
sounds like a bad situation.
Rich
>Bill Arnett wrote:
>> Why don't we just get some bricks to put on top of the sprinklers while
>> we are there?
>
> An upturned bucket and a cinder block? There'd still be water on the
>sidewalk. Or would the block be enough weight to prevent the pop-up?
>I'd bring some along but for the real danger that people might trip over
>them.
>
>--
>Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association
>JVN's web site
From RNapo at znet.com Wed Aug 27 15:51:01 2003
From: RNapo at znet.com (Rich N.)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Sprinklers tonight at Houge???
Message-ID: <007001c36ced$b0eee100$66102a42@pavilion>
Sorry, I only read Bill's comment. I missed seeing Jim's comment
that addresses the safety issue.
Rich
>The SJAA Board needs to consider the trip hazard created by
>some (all?) sprinkler blocking devices. A bucket or cinder block
>sitting on a sprinkler while the public is walking around in the dark
>sounds like a bad situation.
>
>Rich
>
>
>>Bill Arnett wrote:
>>> Why don't we just get some bricks to put on top of the sprinklers while
>>> we are there?
>>
>> An upturned bucket and a cinder block? There'd still be water on the
>>sidewalk. Or would the block be enough weight to prevent the pop-up?
>>I'd bring some along but for the real danger that people might trip over
>>them.
>>
>>--
>>Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association
>>JVN's web site
>
>_______________________________________________
>SJAABoard mailing list
>SJAABoard@sjaa.net
>http://www.sjaa.net/mailman/listinfo/sjaaboard
From bill at nineplanets.org Wed Aug 27 15:54:25 2003
From: bill at nineplanets.org (Bill Arnett)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Sprinklers tonight at Houge???
In-Reply-To: <006501c36ced$4d36ecc0$66102a42@pavilion>
Message-ID: <67E22981-D8E1-11D7-B92B-0030655A4BEC@nineplanets.org>
On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, at 03:48 PM, Rich N. wrote:
> The SJAA Board needs to consider the trip hazard created by
> some (all?) sprinkler blocking devices. A bucket or cinder block
> sitting on a sprinkler while the public is walking around in the dark
> sounds like a bad situation.
I agree. But it's better than wet telescopes. We wouldn't have to
deploy the bricks until the water came on, thus avoiding the trip
hazard. But clearly, a kill switch is a much better solution.
Or we could just put a Dob on top of each sprinkler. That would
contain the damage to the bottom of the ground board :-)
--
Bill Arnett
bill@nineplanets.org http://nineplanets.org/
Emerald Hills CA USA 37 27 N 122 15 W
From akkana at shallowsky.com Wed Aug 27 16:26:27 2003
From: akkana at shallowsky.com (Akkana Peck)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Sprinklers tonight at Houge???
In-Reply-To: <67E22981-D8E1-11D7-B92B-0030655A4BEC@nineplanets.org>
References: <006501c36ced$4d36ecc0$66102a42@pavilion>
<67E22981-D8E1-11D7-B92B-0030655A4BEC@nineplanets.org>
Message-ID: <20030827232627.GA6498@shallowsky.com>
Bill Arnett writes:
> Or we could just put a Dob on top of each sprinkler. That would
> contain the damage to the bottom of the ground board :-)
Or maybe we could use SCTs, unscrewing the corrector plates and
placing one OTA front-end down over each sprinkler (be sure to cap
the eyepiece end!)
...Akkana
From jvn at svpal.org Wed Aug 27 16:38:37 2003
From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Sprinklers tonight at Houge???
References: <006501c36ced$4d36ecc0$66102a42@pavilion>
<20030827232627.GA6498@shallowsky.com>
Message-ID: <3F4D40FD.53AF@svpal.org>
> Bill Arnett writes:
> > Or we could just put a Dob on top of each sprinkler. That would
> > contain the damage to the bottom of the ground board :-)
Akkana Peck wrote:
> Or maybe we could use SCTs, unscrewing the corrector plates and
> placing one OTA front-end down over each sprinkler (be sure to cap
> the eyepiece end!)
Maybe slip the eyepiece opening over the sprinkler pop-up?
Seriously, a piece of 2" plastic pipe would fit over the popped-up
sprinkler, preventing water from spraying anywhere but down, and that
with little force. AHA! an elbow on the top would permit aiming the
water in a harmless direction. Too bad Mike has gotten the water turned
off -- we could run some experiments!
--
Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association
JVN's web site
From RNapo at znet.com Wed Aug 27 16:49:36 2003
From: RNapo at znet.com (Rich N.)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Sprinklers tonight at Houge???
Message-ID: <000b01c36cf5$e00c5dc0$68102a42@pavilion>
A car floor mat worked well last Friday.
Rich
> Seriously, a piece of 2" plastic pipe would fit over the popped-up
>sprinkler, preventing water from spraying anywhere but down, and that
>with little force. AHA! an elbow on the top would permit aiming the
>water in a harmless direction. Too bad Mike has gotten the water turned
>off -- we could run some experiments!
>
>
>--
>Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association
>JVN's web site
>
>_______________________________________________
>SJAABoard mailing list
>SJAABoard@sjaa.net
>http://www.sjaa.net/mailman/listinfo/sjaaboard
From robhawley at earthlink.net Wed Aug 27 17:10:21 2003
From: robhawley at earthlink.net (Rob Hawley)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Sprinklers tonight at Houge???
In-Reply-To: <000b01c36cf5$e00c5dc0$68102a42@pavilion>
Message-ID:
I am bringing some plastic orange cones. These tested well against a real
sprinkler this afternoon.
Rob Hawley
From wb6yru at aenet.net Thu Aug 28 04:12:13 2003
From: wb6yru at aenet.net (Gary Mitchell)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Sprinklers tonight at Houge???
References: <002601c36ce3$0952c060$66102a42@pavilion>
<3F4D321F.27F9@svpal.org>
Message-ID: <3F4DE38D.33E@aenet.net>
Jim Van Nuland wrote:
>
> Rich N. wrote:
> Bill Arnett wrote:
> > Why don't we just get some bricks to put on top of the sprinklers while
> > we are there?
>
> An upturned bucket and a cinder block? There'd still be water on the
> sidewalk. Or would the block be enough weight to prevent the pop-up?
> I'd bring some along but for the real danger that people might trip over
> them.
If we can manage the effort of bringing bricks and buckets
each time, why couldn't we instead march on the office of
whoever sets the sprinkler timing and insist that section
be forever set to 5 AM? A one time deal.
Gary
From RNapo at znet.com Thu Aug 28 12:35:05 2003
From: RNapo at znet.com (Rich N.)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Is there room for one more excellent telescope?
Message-ID: <001301c36d9b$7d1fcb60$8a102a42@pavilion>
Hi folks,
Two questions. Sorry for asking at noon but I was up pretty
late the last few nights.
Would it be possible to have another telescope at tonight's
EVC star party?
Would it be possible to have another scope at one the other
EVC star parties?
Doug Forehand came out to Houge last night, he has an excellent
TMB 8" f/9 Triplet APO. It gives outstanding images. I'm not sure if
he will be able to have time to take it out tonight but if he can would it
be ok to bring it to EVC? Also, I'm not sure what plans Doug has for
the other nights.
Doug.Forehand@Sun.COM
------
EVC star party schedule.
Thursday Aug 28
Saturday Aug 30
Thursday Sept 4th (Formal Opening Day!)
Saturday Sept 6th.
------
All the best,
Rich
From koopm at koopm.best.vwh.net Thu Aug 28 13:43:10 2003
From: koopm at koopm.best.vwh.net (Michael Koop)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Is there room for one more excellent telescope?
In-Reply-To: <001301c36d9b$7d1fcb60$8a102a42@pavilion>
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Sure, he can set up instead of me with my C8.
I'll just help out as a voulenteer in the extra room.
If we need extra scopes, I can always set up.
Mike
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Rich N. wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Two questions. Sorry for asking at noon but I was up pretty
> late the last few nights.
>
> Would it be possible to have another telescope at tonight's
> EVC star party?
>
> Would it be possible to have another scope at one the other
> EVC star parties?
>
> Doug Forehand came out to Houge last night, he has an excellent
> TMB 8" f/9 Triplet APO. It gives outstanding images. I'm not sure if
> he will be able to have time to take it out tonight but if he can would it
> be ok to bring it to EVC? Also, I'm not sure what plans Doug has for
> the other nights.
>
> Doug.Forehand@Sun.COM
>
> ------
> EVC star party schedule.
> Thursday Aug 28
> Saturday Aug 30
> Thursday Sept 4th (Formal Opening Day!)
> Saturday Sept 6th.
> ------
>
> All the best,
> Rich
>
>
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From RNapo at znet.com Thu Aug 28 13:55:35 2003
From: RNapo at znet.com (Rich N.)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Is there room for one more excellent telescope?
Message-ID: <009401c36da6$bb6d3140$8a102a42@pavilion>
Thanks, Mike although I didn't mean to bump another
scope. Although, it looks like we will be clouded out
tonight.
Is there an opening at EVC at on the last Saturday?
Thanks,
Rich
>Sure, he can set up instead of me with my C8.
>I'll just help out as a voulenteer in the extra room.
>If we need extra scopes, I can always set up.
>
>Mike
>
>On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Rich N. wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Two questions. Sorry for asking at noon but I was up pretty
>> late the last few nights.
>>
>> Would it be possible to have another telescope at tonight's
>> EVC star party?
>>
>> Would it be possible to have another scope at one the other
>> EVC star parties?
>>
>> Doug Forehand came out to Houge last night, he has an excellent
>> TMB 8" f/9 Triplet APO. It gives outstanding images. I'm not sure if
>> he will be able to have time to take it out tonight but if he can would
it
>> be ok to bring it to EVC? Also, I'm not sure what plans Doug has for
>> the other nights.
>>
>> Doug.Forehand@Sun.COM
>>
>> ------
>> EVC star party schedule.
>> Thursday Aug 28
>> Saturday Aug 30
>> Thursday Sept 4th (Formal Opening Day!)
>> Saturday Sept 6th.
>> ------
>>
>> All the best,
>> Rich
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SJAABoard mailing list
>> SJAABoard@sjaa.net
>> http://www.sjaa.net/mailman/listinfo/sjaaboard
>>
>
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From Doug.Forehand at Sun.COM Thu Aug 28 13:55:36 2003
From: Doug.Forehand at Sun.COM (Douglas W. Forehand)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Is there room for one more excellent telescope?
Message-ID: <0HKC00CINKSOPX@ha1sun-mail1.sfbay.sun.com>
Thanks for the invite guys.
I doubt very much that I will be able to get the 8" refractor
out tonight. I need to be able to setup during day light and
can not get away from work in time to make that happen.
Thanks anyway.
-Doug
> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 14:43:10 -0600 (MDT)
> From: Michael Koop
> Subject: Re: [SJAABoard] Is there room for one more excellent telescope?
> To: Business list for SJAA board of directors and members
> Cc: Doug.Forehand@Sun.COM, jkirkbride@SFKMinistry.org
> MIME-version: 1.0
> Original-recipient: rfc822;Doug.Forehand@Sun.COM
>
> Sure, he can set up instead of me with my C8.
> I'll just help out as a voulenteer in the extra room.
> If we need extra scopes, I can always set up.
>
> Mike
>
> On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Rich N. wrote:
>
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > Two questions. Sorry for asking at noon but I was up pretty
> > late the last few nights.
> >
> > Would it be possible to have another telescope at tonight's
> > EVC star party?
> >
> > Would it be possible to have another scope at one the other
> > EVC star parties?
> >
> > Doug Forehand came out to Houge last night, he has an excellent
> > TMB 8" f/9 Triplet APO. It gives outstanding images. I'm not sure if
> > he will be able to have time to take it out tonight but if he can would it
> > be ok to bring it to EVC? Also, I'm not sure what plans Doug has for
> > the other nights.
> >
> > Doug.Forehand@Sun.COM
> >
> > ------
> > EVC star party schedule.
> > Thursday Aug 28
> > Saturday Aug 30
> > Thursday Sept 4th (Formal Opening Day!)
> > Saturday Sept 6th.
> > ------
> >
> > All the best,
> > Rich
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > SJAABoard mailing list
> > SJAABoard@sjaa.net
> > http://www.sjaa.net/mailman/listinfo/sjaaboard
> >
>
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From jvn at svpal.org Thu Aug 28 16:01:33 2003
From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland)
Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006
Subject: [SJAABoard] Is there room for one more excellent telescope?
References:
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Michael Koop wrote:
>
> Sure, he can set up instead of me with my C8.
> I'll just help out as a volunteer in the extra room.
> If we need extra scopes, I can always set up.
Rich wrote:
> Thanks, Mike although I didn't mean to bump another scope.
Rich, Doug, I've seriously considered bumping MY scope. The limit of
7 scopes is not absolute; it's the best estimate. Tonight we'll learn
more.
Rich wrote:
> Is there an opening at EVC at on the last Saturday?
That's far enough out that there may be an opening -- things come up.
I think we need to hear from Doug. I'd love to have him there. The
next Houge Park event on Sep.5 is likely to be a busy one. I'm getting
panic phone calls from people who didn't see Mars last night. "No, it
doesn't pop like a balloon; it'll be just as good on Sep.5 and 19."
"(Sigh of relief from caller)."
Clear Skies?!
--
Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association
JVN's web site