From wb6yru at aenet.net Sun Sep 7 03:26:16 2003 From: wb6yru at aenet.net (Gary Mitchell) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] S&T subscription cost Message-ID: <3F5B07C8.2F85@aenet.net> As you guys can see in the last Ephemeris, the club rate for Sky&Tel is going up. Unfortunately, the notice they sent us was poorly worded, it seemed to imply we had until the end of the year. Sky Publishing sent me an e-mail regarding the last batch of subscriptions I sent in at the old rate. Apparently the new rate goes into effect now, only those who receive a renewal notice (from Sky Pub) with the old rate can get that rate. I recently sent in another batch of club subscriptions at the old rate with a note explaining all this, saying that since their notice was poorly worded and we haven't had time to notify our membership, they should accept these at the old rate. I haven't heard back and don't know whether that will fly or not. The next Ephemeris will have a correction. In the mean time, we continue to get renewals from members at the old rate. So, on a contingency basis, my question for the board is this: If Sky Pub. balks at accepting any more subscriptions at the old rate, should we just swallow the difference on the few we get in the interim or ask those members for the balance? (The amount we're talking about is $3 each. I don't expect more than a dozen or so between now and the next Ephemeris.) Gary From RNapo at znet.com Sun Sep 7 13:40:05 2003 From: RNapo at znet.com (Rich N.) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Fw: Re:[TAC] FPOA Contract Implications: How large? Message-ID: <007f01c37580$3901f880$88102a42@pavilion> Dear SJAA Board, I should have sent this suggestion to your board list first but we have been kicking around ideas on TAC this morning and so the following idea hit TAC first. ---- I suggest we have a meeting with the FPOA Board. Maybe the SJAA could invite the FPOA Board to Houge Park for a meeting sometime this week or next week? We could get a better idea of status of things at the Peak and what the FPOA is interested in doing up there. It would also let us have a direct exchange of ideas for amateur astronomy at Fremont Peak State Park. At another time it might be well to have a meeting that would include people from the State. I will forward this suggestion to the SJAA Board list. Sincerely, Rich From robhawley at earthlink.net Sun Sep 7 13:55:54 2003 From: robhawley at earthlink.net (Rob Hawley) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] FW: [TAC] FPOA Contract Implications Message-ID: Rob Hawley -----Original Message----- From: Rob Hawley [mailto:robhawley@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 10:37 AM To: Sjaaboard Cc: Doug Brown [dnabrown@ix.netcom.com] Subject: FW: [TAC] FPOA Contract Implications Some of the folks on the SJAA board do not subscribe to TAC. Per request I am forwarding the post from FPOA (with my 2 cents). For myself the observatory is nice, but I joined FPOA to preserve my right to perform individual viewing. Without individual viewing under realistic rules I would allow the Park to close. My main state park concerns are Coe and Pacheco. I believe we have a stronger case there. My analysis of the reference is 1. There are two uses that have separate problems; the observatory and independent viewing. Each has unique problems associated with it. 2. It would appear from the post that FPOA has not talked with SJAA since Jim provided our insurance information as a response. It would also appear that they do not have legal help. I have am making some inquires with friends to suggest appropriate lawyers. 3. It is not clear from the post whether or not the state is sufficiently flexible to continue both types of activities. Even the FPOA proposed 3-day notice would be a walk away item from my point of view. The reference implies that DPR does not feel obligated to arrive at a solution. Closing the Peak is an acceptable alternative for them. The only way to change the state's position is to apply external pressure (assembly or press). That could have other consequences. 4. I agree with Mark Wagner's opinion that once Ranger Row is closed it won't reopen. That adds a time element to these discussions. If this comes down to money, then I believe the club can identify sources of money. I have spoken with Mike in the past on this issue. My concern is that even the FPOA proposal for individual use is not acceptable. First though the board needs to decide whether or not keeping Fremont Peak open for both types of uses is something that is important to the club. If so, SJAA will likely have to become involved to achieve this goal. Rob Hawley -----Original Message----- From: sf-bay-tac-bounces@seds.org [mailto:sf-bay-tac-bounces@seds.org]On Behalf Of Doug Brown Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 10:10 PM To: sf-bay-tac@seds.org Subject: [TAC] FPOA Contract Implications My name is Doug Brown. I'm an FPOA board member, and have been leading negotiation of the proposed concessionaire contract with the Department of Parks and Recreation. You might be interested in the write-up I just did for the FPOA Observer newsletter, which is posted on our website at http://www.fpoa.net/fpoa-contract-brown.html I'll check the mailing list occasionally over the next few days (except tomorrow, Saturday) to get your thoughts and recommendations and answer any questions you might have. Thanks, Doug From RNapo at znet.com Sun Sep 7 13:58:10 2003 From: RNapo at znet.com (Rich N.) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Fw: Re:[TAC] FPOA Contract Implications: How large? Message-ID: <008f01c37582$bf7c52a0$88102a42@pavilion> If you folks think this is a good idea, then we need to send a note to the FPOA Board. However, I don't have an email list for their Board. Rich >Dear SJAA Board, > >I should have sent this suggestion to your board list first but >we have been kicking around ideas on TAC this morning and >so the following idea hit TAC first. >---- >I suggest we have a meeting with the FPOA Board. Maybe the >SJAA could invite the FPOA Board to Houge Park for a meeting >sometime this week or next week? > >We could get a better idea of status of things at the Peak and >what the FPOA is interested in doing up there. It would also let >us have a direct exchange of ideas for amateur astronomy at >Fremont Peak State Park. > >At another time it might be well to have a meeting that would >include people from the State. > >I will forward this suggestion to the SJAA Board list. > >Sincerely, >Rich > > > > >_______________________________________________ >SJAABoard mailing list >SJAABoard@sjaa.net >http://www.sjaa.net/mailman/listinfo/sjaaboard From dnabrown at ix.netcom.com Sun Sep 7 17:35:53 2003 From: dnabrown at ix.netcom.com (Doug Brown) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Fw: [TAC] FPOA Contract Implications Message-ID: <004801c375a1$291f2fc0$6401a8c0@StudyW2K> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Brown" To: "Rob Hawley" ; "Sjaaboard" Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [TAC] FPOA Contract Implications > Rob- > > Responding to your numbered points: > 1. Two uses that have separate problems: Agree > 2. Not talked with SJAA : True. We have had a lawyer/member involved in our > negotiations, but he's not up on liability issues or contracting with the > state. If you have an appropriate volunteer contact, that would be a big > help. > 3. They are adamant about 30 days. We may be able to insert, "or at > ranger's discretion". This relates to the next point, on control. > 4. Technically, we were told, Ranger Row is already closed to the public, > it's just not enforced. Keep in mind, DPR solicited bids from > concessionaires to operate it so they could close it to "the public" and > open it to "cuctomers of the concessionaire". In a private aside, one DPR > employee told me the bureaucracy's issue is that things are too unstructured > and unsupervised for its taste. Bureaucracies want control, and they don't > feel they have it. They don't want to shut things down (uless they run out > of money), they just want to control it -- but they also don't want to deal > with the details of it. > > Finally, you state > >My concern is that even the FPOA proposal for individual use is not > acceptable. > To which proposal are you referring? > > Thanks, > Doug > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rob Hawley" > To: "Sjaaboard" > Cc: > Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 10:37 AM > Subject: FW: [TAC] FPOA Contract Implications > > > > Some of the folks on the SJAA board do not subscribe to TAC. Per request I > > am forwarding the post from FPOA (with my 2 cents). > > > > > > > > For myself the observatory is nice, but I joined FPOA to preserve my right > > to perform individual viewing. Without individual viewing under realistic > > rules I would allow the Park to close. My main state park concerns are > Coe > > and Pacheco. I believe we have a stronger case there. > > > > > > > > My analysis of the reference is > > > > 1. There are two uses that have separate problems; the observatory and > > independent viewing. Each has unique problems associated with it. > > 2. It would appear from the post that FPOA has not talked with SJAA since > > Jim provided our insurance information as a response. It would also > appear > > that they do not have legal help. I have am making some inquires with > > friends to suggest appropriate lawyers. > > 3. It is not clear from the post whether or not the state is sufficiently > > flexible to continue both types of activities. Even the FPOA proposed > 3-day > > notice would be a walk away item from my point of view. The reference > > implies that DPR does not feel obligated to arrive at a solution. Closing > > the Peak is an acceptable alternative for them. The only way to change > the > > state's position is to apply external pressure (assembly or press). That > > could have other consequences. > > 4. I agree with Mark Wagner's opinion that once Ranger Row is closed it > > won't reopen. That adds a time element to these discussions. > > > > If this comes down to money, then I believe the club can identify sources > of > > money. I have spoken with Mike in the past on this issue. My concern is > that > > even the FPOA proposal for individual use is not acceptable. > > > > First though the board needs to decide whether or not keeping Fremont Peak > > open for both types of uses is something that is important to the club. If > > so, SJAA will likely have to become involved to achieve this goal. > > > > Rob Hawley > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sf-bay-tac-bounces@seds.org [mailto:sf-bay-tac-bounces@seds.org]On > > Behalf Of Doug Brown > > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 10:10 PM > > To: sf-bay-tac@seds.org > > Subject: [TAC] FPOA Contract Implications > > > > My name is Doug Brown. I'm an FPOA board member, and have been leading > > negotiation of the proposed concessionaire contract with the Department of > > Parks and Recreation. > > > > You might be interested in the write-up I just did for the FPOA Observer > > newsletter, which is posted on our website at > > http://www.fpoa.net/fpoa-contract-brown.html > > > > I'll check the mailing list occasionally over the next few days (except > > tomorrow, Saturday) to get your thoughts and recommendations and answer > any > > questions you might have. > > > > Thanks, > > Doug > > > > > > > > > From RNapo at znet.com Sun Sep 7 22:23:23 2003 From: RNapo at znet.com (Rich N.) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Fw: [TAC] FPOA Contract Implications Message-ID: <000d01c375c9$53929ee0$9b102a42@pavilion> >> Rob- >> >> Responding to your numbered points: >> 1. Two uses that have separate problems: Agree >> 2. Not talked with SJAA : True. We have had a lawyer/member involved in >our >> negotiations, but he's not up on liability issues or contracting with the >> state. If you have an appropriate volunteer contact, that would be a big >> help. >> 3. They are adamant about 30 days. We may be able to insert, "or at >> ranger's discretion". This relates to the next point, on control. >> 4. Technically, we were told, Ranger Row is already closed to the public, >> it's just not enforced. Keep in mind, DPR solicited bids from >> concessionaires to operate it so they could close it to "the public" and >> open it to "cuctomers of the concessionaire". In a private aside, one DPR >> employee told me the bureaucracy's issue is that things are too >unstructured >> and unsupervised for its taste. Bureaucracies want control, and they >don't >> feel they have it. They don't want to shut things down (uless they run >out >> of money), they just want to control it -- but they also don't want to >deal >> with the details of it. >> >> Finally, you state >> >My concern is that even the FPOA proposal for individual use is not >> acceptable. >> To which proposal are you referring? >> >> Thanks, >> Doug Hi Doug, The tax payers are already paying for the use of state parks. This is an example of the state trying to slide out of their responsibility. Amateur astronomy needs to be seen as a normal and reasonable use of state parks. Rich From wb6yru at aenet.net Mon Sep 8 00:50:10 2003 From: wb6yru at aenet.net (Gary Mitchell) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Fw: [TAC] FPOA Contract Implications References: <004801c375a1$291f2fc0$6401a8c0@StudyW2K> Message-ID: <3F5C34B2.18EB@aenet.net> Doug Brown wrote: > In a private aside, one DPR > employee told me the bureaucracy's issue is that things are too > unstructured > and unsupervised for its taste. Bureaucracies want control, and they > don't > feel they have it. They don't want to shut things down (uless they run > out > of money), they just want to control it -- but they also don't want to > deal > with the details of it. This right here, IMO, is the major point we face, above all else. Dealing with bureaucrats isn't easy, they don't see the world the same way as normal humans. If we can't get the bureaucracy to see reason, we might consider working with FPOA in relocating the 30" to another site. Perhaps we should also join forces with Group 70. If it comes to relocating, I suggest we not try too hard to locate at a state or county park. This might be a problem for public access, but there's just too much of a power and control issue with bureaucrats. What seems OK to them today, might change tomorrow, depending on who's calling the shots at the time. Gary From wsnelson at concentric.net Mon Sep 8 20:27:10 2003 From: wsnelson at concentric.net (wendy&steve) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] S&T subscription cost Message-ID: <01c37682$44235c60$LocalHost@crc3.concentric.net> I would move to subsidize the cost until the next issue of the newsletter is in the hands of members (i.e. the Board gets it). Anything postmarked after that date will be returned if it has insufficient funds. Total subsidy from the treasury not to exceed $100. Reasons: this is a small expense to keep our loyal members out of trouble (by reading good stuff)! It is a small expense to us, it was a mistake by S&T but we can easily cover it. It would not be worth the hassle to treasurer to go after these small sums. clear skies -----Original Message----- From: Gary Mitchell .... >So, on a contingency basis, my question for the board is this: >If Sky Pub. balks at accepting any more subscriptions at the >old rate, should we just swallow the difference on the few >we get in the interim or ask those members for the balance? > >(The amount we're talking about is $3 each. I don't expect >more than a dozen or so between now and the next Ephemeris.) > >Gary > >_______________________________________________ >SJAABoard mailing list >SJAABoard@sjaa.net >http://www.sjaa.net/mailman/listinfo/sjaaboard > From mgwagner at resource-intl.com Thu Sep 11 20:38:12 2003 From: mgwagner at resource-intl.com (Mark Wagner) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Slide & equipment night / Mars Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030911203731.00b9bd08@mail201.pair.com> Will anyone be setting up scopes for Mars after the slide and equipment night? Thanks.... From RNapo at znet.com Thu Sep 11 21:57:09 2003 From: RNapo at znet.com (Rich N.) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Slide & equipment night / Mars Message-ID: <000401c378ea$53357ac0$95102a42@pavilion> This Saturday? Maybe. If I'm not someplace else. Rich >Will anyone be setting up scopes for Mars after the slide and equipment night? > >Thanks.... From craigus at rocketmail.com Fri Sep 12 11:20:09 2003 From: craigus at rocketmail.com (Craig Scull) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] S&T subscription cost In-Reply-To: <3F5B07C8.2F85@aenet.net> Message-ID: <20030912182009.1167.qmail@web13609.mail.yahoo.com> Gary I can give you $3 at our next mtg Craig --- Gary Mitchell wrote: > As you guys can see in the last Ephemeris, the club > rate for > Sky&Tel is going up. Unfortunately, the notice they > sent us > was poorly worded, it seemed to imply we had until the > end of > the year. > > Sky Publishing sent me an e-mail regarding the last > batch of > subscriptions I sent in at the old rate. Apparently > the new > rate goes into effect now, only those who receive a > renewal > notice (from Sky Pub) with the old rate can get that > rate. > > I recently sent in another batch of club subscriptions > at > the old rate with a note explaining all this, saying > that > since their notice was poorly worded and we haven't had > time > to notify our membership, they should accept these at > the > old rate. I haven't heard back and don't know whether > that > will fly or not. > > The next Ephemeris will have a correction. In the mean > time, > we continue to get renewals from members at the old > rate. > > So, on a contingency basis, my question for the board > is this: > If Sky Pub. balks at accepting any more subscriptions > at the > old rate, should we just swallow the difference on the > few > we get in the interim or ask those members for the > balance? > > (The amount we're talking about is $3 each. I don't > expect > more than a dozen or so between now and the next > Ephemeris.) > > Gary > > _______________________________________________ > SJAABoard mailing list > SJAABoard@sjaa.net > http://www.sjaa.net/mailman/listinfo/sjaaboard __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From Mary.Wong-Kauzlarich at evc.edu Fri Sep 12 11:22:13 2003 From: Mary.Wong-Kauzlarich at evc.edu (Wong-Kauzlarich, Mary) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] EVC Obs opening Message-ID: <5EBB87E99DA48144A54DCF3FD3F9F51501A31001@mail.sjeccd.cc.ca.us> <> <> <> Mary Wong-Kauzlarich Evergreen Valley College 3095 Yerba Buena Road San Jose, CA. 95135 Office of Development (408) 223-6784 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Gary Wong-Kauzlarich, Mary wrote: > > <> <> <> > > Mary Wong-Kauzlarich > Evergreen Valley College > 3095 Yerba Buena Road > San Jose, CA. 95135 > Office of Development > (408) 223-6784 > > Name: IMG17.JPG > Part 1.2 Type: JPEG Image (image/jpeg) > Encoding: base64 > Description: IMG17.JPG > > Name: IMG18.JPG > Part 1.3 Type: JPEG Image (image/jpeg) > Encoding: base64 > Description: IMG18.JPG > > Name: IMG19.JPG > Part 1.4 Type: JPEG Image (image/jpeg) > Encoding: base64 > Description: IMG19.JPG > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > SJAABoard mailing list > SJAABoard@sjaa.net > http://www.sjaa.net/mailman/listinfo/sjaaboard From bhavner at earthlink.net Sat Sep 13 02:27:36 2003 From: bhavner at earthlink.net (Bob Havner) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Meeting Message-ID: <004601c379d9$45af8220$35631e43@default> Sorry for the late notice. I am going to be in Santa Barbara tomorrow (Saturday) and can't make it to the meeting. Bob Havner bhavner@earthlink.net From danac at pacbell.net Sat Sep 13 12:11:13 2003 From: danac at pacbell.net (Dana Crom) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Slide & equipment night / Mars In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20030911203731.00b9bd08@mail201.pair.com> from "Mark Wagner" at Sep 11, 2003 08:38:12 PM Message-ID: <200309131911.MAA02568@pacbell.net> Mark Wagner wrote: > > Will anyone be setting up scopes for Mars after the slide and equipment night? > > Thanks.... I'll probably bring my baby Dob (6"). If nothing else, the horizon in Hogue is less cluttered than my back yard! Dana -- ------------------------+-------------------------------------------------- Dana Crom / "Malt does more than Milton can danac@pacbell.net / To justify God's ways to man" A. E. Housman San Jose, California / "Doubtless due to a wider audience" DLC From mgwagner at resource-intl.com Sat Sep 13 12:29:38 2003 From: mgwagner at resource-intl.com (Mark Wagner) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Slide & equipment night / Mars In-Reply-To: <200309131911.MAA02568@pacbell.net> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20030911203731.00b9bd08@mail201.pair.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030913122914.00bb95c8@mail201.pair.com> At 9/13/2003, you wrote: >Mark Wagner wrote: > > > > Will anyone be setting up scopes for Mars after the slide and equipment > night? > > > > Thanks.... > >I'll probably bring my baby Dob (6"). > >If nothing else, the horizon in Hogue is less cluttered than my back yard! Yes... for me too. I'll bring my 10" Dob. From jane at whiteoaks.com Sat Sep 13 13:55:15 2003 From: jane at whiteoaks.com (Jane Houston Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Can someone take some pictures at slide and equipment night? Message-ID: <3F638433.2080202@whiteoaks.com> We won't be able to attend the meeting tonight, so if someone can take some pictures of interesting slides or interesting equipment, your editors will be most grateful! If possible, get the names of the person(s) and a description of the equipment, too. We'll be working on the Ephemeris tomorrow, Sunday the 14th and Monday the 15th, so send images as soon as you can, and maybe they'll make it into this month's issue of the newsletter. Thanks, your editors -- Jane Houston Jones San Rafael, CA jane@whiteoaks.com http://www.whiteoaks.com From RNapo at znet.com Sat Sep 13 14:09:36 2003 From: RNapo at znet.com (Rich N.) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Fw: [TAC] SJAA Slide and Equipment night (plus Mars observing) Message-ID: <002601c37a3b$56bb9920$87102a42@pavilion> Saturday, 9-13-03. On the TAC list some people have mentioned an interest in setting up their scopes after the meeting. Since this is an unusual night for observing at Houge, has anyone checked the sprinkler situation? Rich PS I'm pretty sure I won't be able to get over to Houge tonight. From jvn at svpal.org Sat Sep 13 15:55:36 2003 From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] SJAA Slide and Equipment night (plus Mars observing) References: <002601c37a3b$56bb9920$87102a42@pavilion> Message-ID: <3F63A068.29D1@svpal.org> Rich N. wrote: > > Saturday, 9-13-03. > > On the TAC list some people have mentioned an interest in > setting up their scopes after the meeting. > > Since this is an unusual night for observing at Houge, has anyone > checked the sprinkler situation? We're scheduled for the building, so by implication the grounds are not any of their concern. I suggest we set up on the basketball court to avoid the problem. We can drive in to unload, then park in the lot, a la Yosemite. -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association JVN's web site From north at znet.com Sat Sep 13 16:15:31 2003 From: north at znet.com (Dave North) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Latest Membership Numbers Message-ID: <3F63A513.7040900@znet.com> Up to 357, a nice odd sequence and getting awfully close to the record. Somebody must be doing something right, and it ain't me! Woohoo! d From mojo at whiteoaks.com Sat Sep 13 16:19:40 2003 From: mojo at whiteoaks.com (Morris Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Latest Membership Numbers In-Reply-To: <3F63A513.7040900@znet.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 13 Sep 2003, Dave North wrote: > Up to 357, a nice odd sequence and getting awfully close to the record. > Somebody must be doing something right, and it ain't me! Gotta be Mars. :) Mojo -- Morris Jones <*> San Rafael, CA mojo@whiteoaks.com http://www.whiteoaks.com From wb6yru at aenet.net Sun Sep 14 23:36:12 2003 From: wb6yru at aenet.net (Gary Mitchell) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Latest Membership Numbers References: <3F63A513.7040900@znet.com> Message-ID: <3F655DDC.7302@aenet.net> Dave North wrote: > > Up to 357, a nice odd sequence and getting awfully close to the record. > Somebody must be doing something right, and it ain't me! > > Woohoo! Maybe all those SJAA cards we hand out at star parties are slowing taking effect. Still, getting new members is one thing, having them stay more than a year or two is something else. Gary From RNapo at znet.com Mon Sep 15 00:25:30 2003 From: RNapo at znet.com (Rich N.) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Latest Membership Numbers Message-ID: <000401c37b5a$8e7c74e0$66102a42@pavilion> >Dave North wrote: >> >> Up to 357, a nice odd sequence and getting awfully close to the record. >> Somebody must be doing something right, and it ain't me! >> >> Woohoo! > >Maybe all those SJAA cards we hand out at star parties are >slowing taking effect. Still, getting new members is one >thing, having them stay more than a year or two is something >else. > >Gary Maybe Mars has something to do with the increase in membership. Rich From wb6yru at aenet.net Mon Sep 15 00:27:31 2003 From: wb6yru at aenet.net (Gary Mitchell) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Latest Membership Numbers References: <3F63A513.7040900@znet.com> <3F655DDC.7302@aenet.net> Message-ID: <3F6569E3.7669@aenet.net> Gary Mitchell wrote: > > Dave North wrote: > > > > Up to 357, a nice odd sequence and getting awfully close to the record. > > Somebody must be doing something right, and it ain't me! > > > > Woohoo! > > Maybe all those SJAA cards we hand out at star parties are > slowing taking effect. Still, getting new members is one BAH! That should be "... SLOWLY taking effect." :/ Gary From jane at whiteoaks.com Mon Sep 15 18:12:45 2003 From: jane at whiteoaks.com (Jane Houston Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] October speaker Message-ID: <3F66638D.5060409@whiteoaks.com> JVN:Mike Koop just told me that Bruce Weaver of MIRA will be the speaker at the October meeting. Watch for a note from Mike re. the topic. Is there any little blurb or anything on the October speaker? We're doiing the Ephemeris thing tonight. Jane -- -- Jane Houston Jones San Rafael, CA jane@whiteoaks.com http://www.whiteoaks.com From jvn at svpal.org Mon Sep 15 22:47:48 2003 From: jvn at svpal.org (Jim Van Nuland) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] October speaker References: <3F66638D.5060409@whiteoaks.com> Message-ID: <3F66A404.1382@svpal.org> Jane Houston Jones wrote: > > JVN:Mike Koop just told me that Bruce Weaver of MIRA will be the > speaker at the October meeting. Watch for a note from Mike re. > the topic. > > Is there any little blurb or anything on the October speaker? I snuck it onto the hotline right under your nose! Mike's note seemed to imply that he'd already sent it to you. Oct.11 - Saturday - General Meeting. Dr. Bruce Weaver of MIRA on "Using Artificial Intelligence to Classify Double Stars" In the hall at Houge Park, 8:00 pm. -- Jim Van Nuland, San Jose (California) Astronomical Association JVN's web site From jane at whiteoaks.com Mon Sep 15 23:07:51 2003 From: jane at whiteoaks.com (Jane Houston Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] Re: October speaker References: <3F66638D.5060409@whiteoaks.com> <3F66A404.1382@svpal.org> Message-ID: <3F66A8B7.9050200@whiteoaks.com> Thanks! I'd rather be looking at Mars right now. :-( JHJ Jim Van Nuland wrote: >I snuck it onto the hotline right under your nose! Mike's note seemed >to imply that he'd already sent it to you. > >Oct.11 - Saturday - General Meeting. Dr. Bruce Weaver of MIRA on > "Using Artificial Intelligence to Classify Double Stars" > > -- Jane Houston Jones San Rafael, CA jane@whiteoaks.com http://www.whiteoaks.com From mojo at whiteoaks.com Tue Sep 16 23:48:32 2003 From: mojo at whiteoaks.com (Morris Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] October Ephemeris going to print soon Message-ID: I'm sending the Ephemeris to the printer on Wednesday morning. If you're up late (or very early) and can help proofread the issue, you can find it here: http://ephemeris.sjaa.net/0310/EphOct03.pdf Mojo -- Morris Jones <*> San Rafael, CA mojo@whiteoaks.com http://www.whiteoaks.com From bill at nineplanets.org Wed Sep 17 01:40:30 2003 From: bill at nineplanets.org (Bill Arnett) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] October Ephemeris going to print soon In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <97FD80BE-E8EA-11D7-8550-0030655A4BEC@nineplanets.org> On Tuesday, September 16, 2003, at 11:48 PM, Morris Jones wrote: > I'm sending the Ephemeris to the printer on Wednesday morning. If > you're up > late (or very early) and can help proofread the issue, you can find it > here: > > http://ephemeris.sjaa.net/0310/EphOct03.pdf I didn't spot any problems. But I am anxiously awaiting the full text of Bill Manley's 3D Moon article. Do you have higher res images? I was able to merge the small ones in the pdf file but I'm sure it would look better if I could print out high res versions :-) -- Bill Arnett bill@nineplanets.org http://nineplanets.org/ Emerald Hills CA USA 37 27 N 122 15 W From mojo at whiteoaks.com Wed Sep 17 09:53:22 2003 From: mojo at whiteoaks.com (Morris Jones) Date: Sat Sep 30 03:57:22 2006 Subject: [SJAABoard] October Ephemeris going to print soon In-Reply-To: <97FD80BE-E8EA-11D7-8550-0030655A4BEC@nineplanets.org> Message-ID: On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Bill Arnett wrote: > I didn't spot any problems. But I am anxiously awaiting the full text > of Bill Manley's 3D Moon article. Do you have higher res images? I > was able to merge the small ones in the pdf file but I'm sure it would > look better if I could print out high res versions :-) Yes I have higher res images. I'll see if I can get those and the text online soon. Mojo -- Morris Jones <*> San Rafael, CA mojo@whiteoaks.com http://www.whiteoaks.com