[SJAAboard] August 16th Minutes
Greg Claytor
gclaytor at hotmail.com
Fri Sep 12 22:05:40 MDT 2008
Ok. This is called a learning curve. Not to self, no attachments.
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August 16, 2008 - SJAA Board Meeting Minutes
- Greg Claytor
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Board Member in Attendance:
Robert Armstrong
Rob Hawley
Rich Neuschaefer
Lee Hoglan (Optometrist Extraordinary. Cheap plug because I like him, use
him and cause we need to make this fun again damnit)
Gordon Reade
Mark Wagner
Board Members Absent:
Craig Scull (He must be a pirate. I wish my name was that Cool) Vote by
Proxy through Rob Hawley.
Club Members in Attendance:
Greg Claytor
Steven Nelson
Meeting brought to order by Rob Hawley
Rob introduced the following motion on behalf on Craig, The Pirate, Scull:
"I'm sorry I cannot be here. I propose that the discussion tonight focus
exclusively on the content and merit of the two proposals presented, and NOT
on the 'process' by which the proposals were created, which although also
important, is second priority to the time-sensitive decisions that need to
be made tonight."
Motion Seconded by Gordon
Motion was, more or less, unanimously denied after discussion.
Rob mad a motion to defer approving last months minutes until next month.
Motion seconded by Robert Armstrong
Motion passed unanimously.
Mark Wagner and Rich Neuschaefer were offered and accepted 30 uninterrupted
minutes to present their proposal.
Mark read and rebutted a document prepared and delivered by Rob Hawley by
email. (I can't locate or reference it)
Mark and Rich disagree with Rob's interpretation of the City of San Jose's
requirements. They mentioned that Rob's CPA was too conservative and that
the AACCSV (The Arab American Cultural Center of Silicon Valley) would be
engaging in activities that Rob doesn't want the SJAA engaging in. Rich
mentioned the AACCSV charges $100 or a class in Arabic. He and Mark
defended the SJAAs ability to conduct a swap meet and use those funds to
support club expenses as it provides astronomy activities or the San Jose
residents. This was in contrast to Rob's CPA who advised against it.
Mark and Rich recommended submitting a proposal for securing both building 1
and 2 at Hogue Park and sharing them with the AACCSV as SJAA sees fit.
Mark characterized Rob's approach as trying to preserve what we have now,
while not allowing for expansion of programs offered to SJAA members or San
Jose residents. ATMing (mirror grinding and testing requiring water were
mentioned), loaner scope storage, school teacher training program space and
storage of SJAA membership files, which are currently being stored at Rich
Neuschaefer home.
Mark pointed out that the City of San Jose's RFP includes a 90 (ninety) day
notice to quit by either party.
Robert pointed out that an SJAA advantage has always been that it operates
on a shoestring budget, is informal and simple allowing flexibility.
Mark countered with "If we aren't growing then we're dying." Mark stated
that we should preclude bringing in any competition (AACCSV), that we are in
a strong position on our own, that we have an established position at Hogue
since ~1992.
Robert began to explore the idea of using building 1 and part of building 2.
Rob Hawley made a motion
Rob stated he forgot to call a vote on Jim's Calendar and made a motion to
do so. Gordon seconded the motion.
The motion carried with Rob, Robert, Mark, Gordon and Craig (by proxy) in
favor. Rich voted against.
Rob Hawley started his 30 minute presentation
Rob stated that his proposal was essentially complete, had been reviewed by
a CPA, offered protection for the club by separating Hogue and non-Hogue
books and some club activities. He stated that this approach would
eliminate the need for SJAA to provide an independent financial review of
SJAA books required by the City RFP. He mentioned that the AACCSV would
agree not to compete for building 1 use that might conflict with SJAA star
parties and club meetings through 2012. He also stated that the SJAA was in
a stronger position to win City approval by cooperating with the AACCSV than
it would be on it's own.
Robert asked if it would be possible to ask for some space in building 2.
Rob didn't think the AACCSV would agree. Rob referenced his proposal and
stated "This is as close to a slam dunk as possible." Mark asked if Rob had
spoken with Carol of the AACCSV to explore shared use of building 2 and Rob
answered no.
Rob moved to approve the MOA
Rob moved to approve the Memorandum of Understanding between the SJAA and
the AACCSV. Gordon seconded the motion. Rob opened the topic for
discussion.
Robert then moved to amend item 2 of the MOA: Approach the AACCSV to explore
use of building 2 in it's entirety or share use of it. Rob seconded the
motion. The motion carried with Rob, Robert, Mark, Gordon and Craig (by
proxy) in favor. Rich voted against.
Robert moved to accept Rob's financial model
Robert moved to accept Rob's financial model as written to accompany any
proposal for submission to the City. Gordon seconded the motion. The
motion carried with Rob, Robert, Gordon and Craig (by proxy) in favor. Mark
and Rich voted against.
Someone moved that the board convene again
Someone moved that the board convene again on or before Thursday, August
21st, 2008. Someone seconded it. It was discussed and decided that Rob
would reserve Hogue for Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday to
facilitate the meeting, allowing for exploratory discussions with the AACCSV
to occur prior to the board meeting again. The motion carried with Rob,
Robert, Gordon Craig (by proxy), Mark and Rich in favor.
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